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Stroller said:
No Goldie, it's you and people like you that can't (or choose not to) distinguish between anti-Isreali sentiment and anti-Semitism.
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So, Strolls, your position is that Corbyn is anti-Israel, and has upset all the Jewish MP's in his party (including allowing one pregnant Jewish MP to be bullied and intimidated without lifting a finger) because they don't subscribe to his view, not because he dislikes Jewish people
 
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Remember Corbyn's approval of this?

The artist said on his Facebook page: “Tomorrow they want to buff my mural Freedom of Expression. London Calling, Public art.”

Corbyn replied: “Why? You are in good company. Rockerfeller [sic] destroyed Diego Viera’s [sic] mural because it includes a picture of Lenin.”
 
Goldhawk-Road said:
So, Strolls, your position is that Corbyn is anti-Israel, and has upset all the Jewish MP's in his party (including allowing one pregnant Jewish MP to be bullied and intimidated without lifting a finger) because they don't subscribe to his view, not because he dislikes Jewish people
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I'm certain he has no problem with Jewish people, Goldie.

Where he is absolutely wrong though, is in allowing this issue to fester and in failing to tell his supporters to quit bothering so much about Israel/Palestine and to get on with fighting this obnoxious Blukip government.
 
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Staines R's said:
I find it quite ironic that some people are up in arms over the bullying of MPs like Luciana Berger but find it highly amusing when MPs like Diane Abbott are ridiculed.

Both are bullying......both are wrong.
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Diane Abbott has the piss taken out of her because she says ridiculous things and is totally unprepared for her brief. I've no knowledge that she's been threatened with violence or needed police protection attending her Party conference
 
Goldhawk-Road said:
Diane Abbott has the piss taken out of her because she says ridiculous things and is totally unprepared for her brief. I've no knowledge that she's been threatened with violence or needed police protection attending her Party conference
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The shadow home secretary, who temporarily stood aside during the election campaign for health reasons, came under a relentless campaign of racist and sexist abuse in the weeks before the 8 June poll. The abuse directed at her amounted to 10 times as much as was received by any other female MP, according to the Amnesty study.

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ore-abused-than-any-other-mps-during-election
 
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Stroller said:
I'm certain he has no problem with Jewish people, Goldie.

Where he is absolutely wrong though, is in allowing this issue to fester and in failing to tell his supporters to quit bothering so much about Israel/Palestine and to get on with fighting this obnoxious Blukip government.
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...then he tried to get Margaret Hodge disciplined!

I'm afraid I do think his anti-Zionism spills out into his view of Jewish people. I agree with you he should have brought this to an end so he could be an effective opposition. The trouble is, he's stubborn and if someone points out a flaw, he just perpetuates it to make a point
 
ELLERS said:
Staines have you never said someone is stupid? If you have then that's bullying according to your theory. I cannot see the connection between Abbott and Luciana Berger? Two very different examples.
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Ellers, I expect nothing more from you.
2 women MPs, both Labour, both bullied.....can you see the connection now ?
I think the abuse of Abbott is more than just saying she is ‘stupid’.....because she obviously isn’t to get where she is now......like you, she has a degree.
 
Stroller said:
The shadow home secretary, who temporarily stood aside during the election campaign for health reasons, came under a relentless campaign of racist and sexist abuse in the weeks before the 8 June poll. The abuse directed at her amounted to 10 times as much as was received by any other female MP, according to the Amnesty study.

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ore-abused-than-any-other-mps-during-election
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Agree, the racism is totally unacceptable. But as I say, it's not the intimidation that Berger has suffered. This from the Jewish Chronicle last November:

The Labour leadership has failed to make any contact with Jewish Labour MP Luciana Berger — despite the announcement last week of a criminal investigation into violent antisemitic threats made against her.

The JC understands that neither Jeremy Corbyn nor any member of his senior team has offered support of any kind to Ms Berger after Cressida Dick, the Metropolitan Police Commissioner, confirmed last Friday the start of a criminal probe into the threats that appeared in a dossier of abuse from Labour members.

In a series of potentially catastrophic events for Labour, it has emerged that party officials were fully aware of the threats made to Ms Berger — including the suggestion she was a “Zionist Extremist… about (to) get a good kicking” — for at least six months.

Despite the fact that Ms Berger has been a frequent target of extremists since she was elected Liverpool Wavertree MP in 2010, and that Labour MP Jo Cox was murdered by an extremist in 2016, Labour officials failed to alert Ms Berger or the police about the existence of threats now deemed serious enough for an investigation by Scotland Yard.
 
Goldhawk-Road said:
There's nothing wrong taking the piss out of politicians, Stainsey. They've got to have thick skins particularly when they mess up. If there are racist remarks made against Abbott, that's totally wrong, but that doesn't justify what Berger went through, and Abbott has not had the same threats of violence
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Are you for real mate ? Abbott has been threatened with violence, death threats and intimidation all her life.......it’s not a competition but I’d take a bet she has had far more abuse than Berger.
 
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