Off Topic The Politics Thread

[ELLERS]

They have been the strong negotiators and we are a little island running scared. Look at the state of our politics just to see that. Take your blinkers off for a moment.

"strong negotiators" you see that is once again where you fail to grasp anything. They have not been good, we were just weak.
As for 'little Island' comments we aren't doing too bad for the 5th largest economy in the World. Not bad for a little island that leads the way on many things.
"little island" you have shown your true colours... enemy within

 

[bobmid]

"strong negotiators" you see that is once again where you fail to grasp anything. They have not been good, we were just weak.
As for 'little Island' comments we aren't doing too bad for the 5th largest economy in the World. Not bad for a little island that leads the way on many things.
"little island" you have shown your true colours... enemy within

We are a little island. The enemy within is the hard line bexiteer who wants the country to go tits up. Do you seriously want no deal?? Oh by the way, what are my true colours????

 

[bobmid]

When May comes back with her tail between her legs cos the EU won't budge then we will see the Tories rip themselves even further apart.

 

[DT’s Socks]

bob under your veiled comments it has been evident for some time that you are a remainer and a labour supporter who dislikes the Tories. You are not fooling anyone with your "i don't really know" comments. You were found out a long time ago.
That aside.
The EU now has 2 options, the renegotiate or we leave on WTO on March 30th. That was confirmed by many in the last few hours. The EU is running scared because they don't want us to leave. Germany, France, Italy, Greece and co are not doing too well and if we left on WTO it would cripple the EU and the Euro. I even posted facts about the Irish economy yesterday who will basically go into recession if it was a no deal.

Even today I heard one German MEP saying the way forward is another referendum and that they have been talking to an MP here (I wonder who that was)? The interviewer said "but we had a referendum and there is no appetite for another one" The MEP insisted there should be another one. The interviewer then said "say the result was in favour of remain 52/48 what about the divisions"? The MEP said "then you remain and that's it". They couldn't give a toss about us other then us staying in this dying union.

After all the threats by the EU and the fact that it's proved time and time again that you cannot barging with the EU. Some people are still hellbent on trying to remain in this gangster club. Maybe if some had heard the radio phone that I did last night they would have heard many callers saying how they have changed their opinion of the EU with they way they keep shutting the door in our face.

Well, they now have 2 choices and they better start moving otherwise they will have to start supporting the 20 odd crap countries. See you there.

PS... As one MEP has just said "what they say in public is different to what they say behind the scenes".

Crap countries have to say it total idiot thinking

No **** Sherlock

 

[DT’s Socks]

When May comes back with her tail between her legs cos the EU won't budge then we will see the Tories rip themselves even further apart.

Hoping that happens Bob
Worse governance in my lifetime
Nope can’t really trust labour at mo but anyone who stand up for this current Tory lot needs serious help

****ing blue Tory sheep hate them all as I do anyone who is still a Brexiteer today

 

[Stroller]

There are 3-4 of them on here that stick together and 'like' each others posts even when they are wrong. They are the last of the Euro lovers who couldn't accept the result of the vote. Even after last nights Cooper defeat and I said it was 'game over' I got this as the first part of a reply

It's like they want our country to fail FFS. The enemy within.

May is pandering to the extremist wing of the Tory party - those who would happily see us leave on 29th March with no deal, and **** the consequences - rather than seeking a compromise with Parliament as a whole. Parliament has given her a bit more time to go back to the EU, who have already told her that she'll be wasting her time. If and when she returns empty-handed, other outcomes must be sought, and Parliament - having already last night signalled its unwillingness to let No Deal happen - will seek again to take a hand. That's why it's not 'game over'. If you must insist in calling people the 'enemy within', I would suggest that those who are rubbing their hands together at the thought of a No Deal exit on 29th March are the true 'enemy'. Are you one of those, Ellers?

For the record, I haven't for some time thought that there was much likelihood of a further referendum, but I do think think that the Article 50 process will have to be extended, and that the likely final outcome will be us staying in a permanent Customs Union. Not the best Brexit outcome, but certainly not the worst. If it brought about a major split in the Tory party, that would be a significant added bonus, though.

 

[bobmid]

Hoping that happens Bob
Worse governance in my lifetime
Nope can’t really trust labour at mo but anyone who stand up for this current Tory lot needs serious help

****ing blue Tory sheep hate them all as I do anyone who is still a Brexiteer today

Thing is , if this were Labour that were In government doing the same, I would be saying the same. Labour are weak opposition at the moment but the Tories are 2 or 3 parties within one.

 

[Staines R's]

Hoping that happens Bob
Worse governance in my lifetime
Nope can’t really trust labour at mo but anyone who stand up for this current Tory lot needs serious help

****ing blue Tory sheep hate them all as I do anyone who is still a Brexiteer today

I’m a hard left ‘brexiteer.......do you hate me too princess

 

[ELLERS]

Corbin getting stick on Twitter for being weak and making himself look a right plonker yesterday. Where are all his supporters today? Let's see them try and defend him.

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

Still hope we can reach a deal - May has to go to Brussels with a workable alternative to the backstop - and if this is no go, we have to be prepared to walk away. The Spelman/Dromey amendment is a nonsense in negotiating terms. It would take all pressure off Brussels - and there is pressure. If there is no deal, there would be huge redundancies in the Low Countries and Germany. We are French agriculture's biggest export market, so Macron will feel the ire of the French farmers. Ireland will be caused huge economic and trading problems.

WTO is not as good as a good deal, but it's much better than BRINO. We have to keep preparing for it, while negotiating right up to 29 March.

Yvette Cooper type amendments are entirely negative and are a concealed attempt by Remain MP's to stay in the EU. There's a lot of evidence coming through the media that the majority of the Leave public want a clean break if a good deal is not on the table.

 

[bobmid]

Corbin getting stick on Twitter for being weak and making himself look a right plonker yesterday. Where are all his supporters today? Let's see them try and defend him.

Yes where are they all? We really should demonize him as quick as possible due to the Tories impending explosion. Anyone who thinks yesterday was about brexit is very naive indeed. I am starting to think that Corbyn is no way ruthless enough to be a polotician.

 

[ELLERS]

Still hope we can reach a deal - May has to go to Brussels with a workable alternative to the backstop - and if this is no go, we have to be prepared to walk away. The Spelman/Dromey amendment is a nonsense in negotiating terms. It would take all pressure off Brussels - and there is pressure. If there is no deal, there would be huge redundancies in the Low Countries and Germany. We are French agriculture's biggest export market, so Macron will feel the ire of the French farmers. Ireland will be caused huge economic and trading problems.

WTO is not as good as a good deal, but it's much better than BRINO. We have to keep preparing for it, while negotiating right up to 29 March.

Yvette Cooper type amendments are entirely negative and are a concealed attempt by Remain MP's to stay in the EU. There's a lot of evidence coming through the media that the majority of the Leave public want a clean break if a good deal is not on the table.

Agree Goldie.
The public are beginning to finally realise how bad this EU Mafia are. I heard the same regarding many now want a clean break. Many in the city are now saying walk.
As you said a free trade deal would be the way forward but these Eu fanatics supported by the enemy within in this country will try anything.

Great seeing Dominic Raab get his swagger back today when being interviewed. Just said ”We get a deal or leave on March 29th on WTO” He just dismissed all the remoaner crap. Even Jezza has had to eat humble pie.
Not gloating just happy to see those trecherous lot fail.

 

[ELLERS]

Yes where are they all? We really should demonize him as quick as possible due to the Tories impending explosion. Anyone who thinks yesterday was about brexit is very naive indeed. I am starting to think that Corbyn is no way ruthless enough to be a polotician.

...

 

[DT’s Socks]

I’m a hard left ‘brexiteer.......do you hate me too princess

No you aren’t Staines mate
Anyone who does your job has the soul of a saint
Inside you know that it will take a massive shift in U.K. culture post Brexit to upturn the nation
I know that because you are inside the NHS you must have the knowledge insight & frustration that it don’t just need money chucked st the NHS

With greedy big business only led by profit essential the U.K. retains the city and today as I have said Barclays announced what I knew in 2017 that they shifting towards Dublin ... I should know my company does everything thing for them

Watch the rest begin to give heavy hints in next few weeks ... I wasn’t lying and we may see a rat run collapse as I could see a long time ago ... it will only take 10 of the companies I know that we control to press the button and everyone will need to look again at project fear regardless what any blue sheep says

 

[DT’s Socks]

Yes where are they all? We really should demonize him as quick as possible due to the Tories impending explosion. Anyone who thinks yesterday was about brexit is very naive indeed. I am starting to think that Corbyn is no way ruthless enough to be a polotician.

I like JC for his values but he is very weak

 

[DT’s Socks]

Corbin getting stick on Twitter for being weak and making himself look a right plonker yesterday. Where are all his supporters today? Let's see them try and defend him.

Well agreed he has been weak but as a human being bloke is leagues ahead of your ex dinner date ... lucky miss there Ellers she would have eaten your balls for starters

 

[ELLERS]

You must log in or register to see media

Let's remember his words... No reopening or negotiation and the 27 stick together.

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

Agree Goldie.
The public are beginning to finally realise how bad this EU Mafia are. I heard the same regarding many now want a clean break. Many in the city are now saying walk.
As you said a free trade deal would be the way forward but these Eu fanatics supported by the enemy within in this country will try anything.

Great seeing Dominic Raab get his swagger back today when being interviewed. Just said ”We get a deal or leave on March 29th on WTO” He just dismissed all the remoaner crap. Even Jezza has had to eat humble pie.
Not gloating just happy to see those trecherous lot fail.

Yes, the best way to get a deal is to go hard for WTO, and the EU will offer compromises. It's how they do business. But it's for the May and her advisors to put forward a backstop alternative now, so the EU can be sure what we want when they do come back to the table seriously. Barclay, the present Brexit secretary, was asked this on Radio 4 this morning and couldn't be specific on the alternative. The UK must have this planned. There's a change in the negotiating team so perhaps that's hopeful

 

[bobmid]

It's a tricky situation really. The EU can see right through yesterday's events and have just said so. Everyone can see this was about the Tory party and not brexit. No sane person wants a no deal so it will be interesting to see where this **** wit of a prime minister takes us now! What a farcical party.

 

[bobmid]

Yes, the best way to get a deal is to go hard for WTO, and the EU will offer compromises. It's how they do business. But it's for the May and her advisors to put forward a backstop alternative now, so the EU can be sure what we want when they do come back to the table seriously. Barclay, the present Brexit secretary, was asked this on Radio 4 this morning and couldn't be specific on the alternative. The UK must have this planned. There's a change in the negotiating team so perhaps that's hopeful

What alternative is there. Talk about winging it !!