that makes sense but what about new younger people wanting Brexit (funnily I did read an article regarding new voters) or the remainers that are middle-aged and died? You are right though, it is a bit of fun, it is just alarming when I see all the responses from people (at the bottom of the article). Funnily I thought it was only 'leave' voters that were thick.
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We are all thick mate for believing this bullshit
There must be a fairly strong possibility that, whatever the official party line is, Labour MPs from Remain constituencies (or those that feel strongly enough that any Brexit is damaging to the country) will vote against May's deal. If they do, and the remainder follow the suggested party line that they should abstain - on the basis that, whilst the referendum result should be respected, this is not the right deal - May could lose the vote. In that scenario, who would be seen to have brought May down, the Tory ERG group or Labour Blairite rebels?
As to dereliction of duty, some might say that supporting any legislation that you believe to be damaging to the country is exactly that.
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That fine Stoller but no one knows what effect Brexit will have.
For every doom and gloom forecast there is a response and vice versa. If Labour MP's in Brexit areas don't support things then they will be losing their seat at the next election.
I keep hearing caller after caller on radio phone in's saying if tMP's don't support their vote they will not vote again.
This brings me onto a bigger issue for a later date (if my local MP doesn't support what I voted for).
Looks like post-Brexit, immigration will target highly skilled workers who want to come here. We won't be forced to those we don't need from the EU, and will not discriminate against Australians, Indonesians and South Africans in favour of Romanians and Bulgarians. Good.
Fair enough Strolls, I am just a little tired of the gaming that these endless factions on all sides are indulging in.
Even if Chequers is a **** deal from the perspective of hard line Brexiters and pure Remainers, I respect Mark Carney’s view that we will see a significant positive economic bounce on the back of it. I’d like any deal and the implementation period and bloody quickly rather than another incredibly divisive referendum or an election in which I would be forced to spoil my ballot paper. And if it wasn’t for the DU ****ing P I think we would have got one already.
Fair enough, I've edited my post to say 'believe' rather than 'know'.
I have a US friend, highly educated and qualified that wanted to stay and work here but was unable to. She went back to the US. Yesterday I passed a traveler site with about 6-7 mobile homes full in Eastern European families. They had enough rubbish piled up at outside their place to fill a dustbin truck (I am not joking). This is not sounding racist but I will be glad when we will be able to pick and choose who we need for this country.
I wish someone would tell that to the bloke on a tractor who keeps spreading **** on the field I walk the dog round.
This has been part of the problem, Ellers. We can now become a truly global marketplace in London and other UK cities, able to attract the best and brightest from around the world, rather than being an adjunct to a troubled project with restrictive practices.
There hasn't been anything stopping us from letting in the brightest and best from anywhere has there? Apart from unnecessary and artificial caps of course.
Agree mate. Post Brexit I can see us pushing forward without all the EU restrictions holding us back.
We should do what France does. They doesn't let English work there unless in a highly skilled job and can speak fluent French...oops they are an EU member and I thought it was us that were protectionist?
How come France can do that while in the EU yet some think we can't? We can already attract the brightest etc we can also stop whoever we choose to at our borders. What makes anyone think that leaving the EU will change any of that?? BizarreAgree mate. Post Brexit I can see us pushing forward without all the EU restrictions holding us back.
We should do what France does. They doesn't let English work there unless in a highly skilled job and can speak fluent French...oops they are an EU member and I thought it was us that were protectionist?
The restrictions in the UK on non-EU migrants are necessarily more severe because of the automatic right of EU citizens to come here. There's only some many incomers we can take. The UK population has been spiralling upwards with all the pressures on public services etc.
Much fairer to have a level playing field. We need to keep immigration numbers under control, and when we admit someone, we want them to make a material contribution to our society.
So how do you stop people from the EU entering the country?
The fact is bob is that we can't stop EU members entering. doesn't even matter if they have a criminal record.
We've always had the right to ask EU citizens to leave after 3 months if they weren't in work or otherwise self-sufficient. We just haven't bothered to check.
Well, hopefully things will be different post Brexit. people who come here should be vetted and working (or at least be able to support themselves. Not being inhumane here but we have plenty of problems with UK citizens that need sorting first.
We need to get our own house in order and then worry about others. Plenty of homeless, sick, poor people here to deal with.