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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Quite right. He and Aaron Banks talked up the ‘Norway Option’. But their campaign was more about immigration.

It was Johnson (even after the referendum) and Daniel Hannan that said we would continue to be in the single market (Hannan) and have ‘access’ to it (Johnson). I suppose Johnson can wriggle out of it by saying ‘access’ doesn’t mean ‘in’, but every country in the world has ‘access’ to the Single Market, just on much worse terms than being in it.

Given the way things are going the Norway Option sounds fine to me.

Yes, Johnson said we would have access to the Single Market. We do under WTO rules. I cannot find any reference to him saying we could retain membership of the Single Market.
 
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I'm suspicious of anything involving Soubry. This is the extract from the New Statesman:

"Leave.EU

Although today Leave.EU is one of the most vocal opponents of staying in the single market, both Nigel Farage and Arron Banks, influential members of the unofficial Brexit campaign, talked up the "Norway option" and the European Economic Area. However, in February 2016, Farage said explicitly that he did not wish the UK to be part of the single market. Leave.EU's campaign messaging stressed controlling borders and immigration, and Farage argued that immigration was suppressing wages. "
 
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I'm suspicious of anything involving Soubry. This is the extract from the New Statesman:

"Leave.EU

Although today Leave.EU is one of the most vocal opponents of staying in the single market, both Nigel Farage and Arron Banks, influential members of the unofficial Brexit campaign, talked up the "Norway option" and the European Economic Area. However, in February 2016, Farage said explicitly that he did not wish the UK to be part of the single market. Leave.EU's campaign messaging stressed controlling borders and immigration, and Farage argued that immigration was suppressing wages. "

Are you telling me that Farage is two-faced lying toad? He specifically promoted the Norway model, free movement and all. Look at the link I posted.
 
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Yes, Johnson said we would have access to the Single Market. We do under WTO rules. I cannot find any reference to him saying we could retain membership of the Single Market.
Which is exactly what I wrote. I think he meant to mislead with this statement, you may not, it was part of his ‘have our cake and eat it’ response to the shock of the Brexit vote.

Anyway it doesn’t matter now.
 
Are you telling me that Farage is two-faced lying toad? He specifically promoted the Norway model, free movement and all. Look at the link I posted.

Farage ruled out single market membership many months before the referendum, on the grounds that he did not want unrestricted free movement of workers. Theresa May has done the same, which is why, whatever Stan might favour, the Norway option looks dead in the water for the UK imo
 
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Farage ruled out single market membership many months before the referendum, on the grounds that he did not want unrestricted free movement of workers. Theresa May has done the same, which is why, whatever Stan might favour, the Norway option looks dead in the water for the UK imo

But it's the 'will of the people'.
 
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Are you telling me that Farage is two-faced lying toad?
He is probably as two-faced as the remain politicians who said if we left it would be WW3 and the rest of the rubbish which hasn't happened.
TBH out of all of them I actually (in a weird way) trust Farage more than any of them. Don't agree we some of his political views but would rather trust him than the two-faced Corbyn.
 
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does emma check anything
apparently this 97 year old is homeless because of the bastard torys

The lady that @emmadentcoad and others are trying to highlight, and use to attack the Conservatives here is an American lady living in California.
she died in 2009
 
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does emma check anything
apparently this 97 year old is homeless because of the bastard torys

The lady that @emmadentcoad and others are trying to highlight, and use to attack the Conservatives here is an American lady living in California.
she died in 2009



Completely typical.
 
Prince Harry's kids will be Americans. What if one grows up to be president and is in line for the throne at the same time? Brits are playing long-ball here, but it's a smart move. They want America back and this is how they'll do it.
 
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Gents
Would it be fair to say that Britain is making a total bol••x of this at the moment
 
Gents
Would it be fair to say that Britain is making a total bol••x of this at the moment
I assume you mean Brexit?
Depends who you ask Nutso. In my view it is a total bollox and the U.K. government is responsible for at least 80% of that, with the EU taking the other 20%.
Others will say it’s all our fault or all theirs.
 
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I assume you mean Brexit?
Depends who you ask Nutso. In my view it is a total bollox and the U.K. government is responsible for at least 80% of that, with the EU taking the other 20%.
Others will say it’s all our fault or all theirs.


I'd say it's 30% us and 70% them.