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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Quite the reverse, the % are the key. I came out Labour, Lib Dem, UKIP !!!!, Green, Tory, in that order, but all within 20% top and bottom). Just shows no single party reflects anybody's entire set of opinions/feelings, except those who slavishly follow a name and their family voting tradition.

Yeah, I was surprised that UKIP came in front of Tory for me. Perhaps they have some good education policies that I was unaware of.
 
Yeah, I was surprised that UKIP came in front of Tory for me. Perhaps they have some good education policies that I was unaware of.
I think Green would have been higher for me but for my indifference about fracking and positive adoration of genetic modification.
 
Some interesting points here...

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She was absolutely spot on. The liberals have run the show for the past 30 years. Even now, after these terrible scenes of our children being blown apart, there are loud voices saying that we mustn't be racist and that this isn't a problem with Islam.
It isn't racist. This is all about the religion of Islam and up to 25% of them supporting Jihad by many polls.
While people scream "racism" and "persecution" our children will continue to be slaughtered.
 
Some interesting points here...

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This Birgitte is just ****ing awesome.
Havé just got off the phone with the Caribbean descendent mother of my god child - The Irish father was on the pub.
She's just about the nicest human I know, Catholic as well, although The kirs are all toi clever - and when even she is saying enough is enough -


**** it - Let's go to war against the whole of ****ing ****ty ****y ****ed pu Islam
Deep down they all hate us and we're spending far too much Time and energy on them

Any ****ing ideology that wants to exterminate another needs to be sent to Greenland.
 
I see the Manchester Evening News had a pictorial front page of a candle with eth headline 'There is a Light that Never Goes Out'. Presumably this is a reference to the Mancunian band The Smiths song of the same name. Clearly they have never listened to the song in depth, it's a tongue in cheek (at least I hope so) ode to suicide, and deeply inappropriate.

I'm pretty torn on the media coverage of this atrocity. Lot of emphasis on the individual's who lost their lives, their families and friends, and people who were at the gig, and this does humanise the whole thing, which is good. Real people, not just faceless numbers. But it also feels intrusive.
Love your work and who you are my man
Everything doesn't have to be 100% checked to be fitting cleverly, without it having real meaning.


We can't sanitise everything in to our preffered boxes Stan - there would be no room for Col.
 
Big attack on Theresa May by Nuttall at the UKIP manifesto launch. Maybe the terrible events in Manchester will actually work against her electorally.

Not according to these Sky journo's ...

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Who better to explain this situation than British muslim and CEO of Quilliam Haras Rafiq ...

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Not according to these Sky journo's ...

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Yeah, I'd seen (heard) that. What they are saying would be the obvious interpretation (I said as much on here), but the fact that UKIP might get some traction from the tragedy changes the equation somewhat. The other factor is May's probable culpability as Home secretary in the Manchester perpetrator going under the radar could have an impact too.

Is this just wishful thinking on my part?
 
Yeah, I'd seen (heard) that. What they are saying would be the obvious interpretation (I said as much on here), but the fact that UKIP might get some traction from the tragedy changes the equation somewhat. The other factor is May's probable culpability as Home secretary in the Manchester perpetrator going under the radar could have an impact too.

Is this just wishful thinking on my part?

I think the election will be won by the tories regardless unless something extraordinary happens. It will be a two horse race between Labour and Conservative. UKIP are effectively redundant now. The Lib-Dems could have had the chance to make ground with what's happened in the last week ( not the Manchester attack ) but painted themselves into a corner by focussing almost solely on 'Brexit' and losing out on over fifty per cent of the electorate from the off.

I've just seen that Corbyn is focussing on British foreign policy in the middle-east as to why we're being attacked by Islamic terrorism. I don't buy it. Sweden have suffered terrorist attacks and they haven't bombed or invaded anyone as far as I'm aware.
 
I think the election will be won by the tories regardless unless something extraordinary happens. It will be a two horse race between Labour and Conservative. UKIP are effectively redundant now. The Lib-Dems could have had the chance to make ground with what's happened in the last week ( not the Manchester attack ) but painted themselves into a corner by focussing almost solely on 'Brexit' and losing out on over fifty per cent of the electorate from the off.

I've just seen that Corbyn is focussing on British foreign policy in the middle-east as to why we're being attacked by Islamic terrorism. I don't buy it. Sweden have suffered terrorist attacks and they haven't bombed or invaded anyone as far as I'm aware.

Corbyn is consistent at least. He will stick to what he believes, even it is not electorally advantageous. Tory lead down to 5 points in the latest poll.
 

I think I mentioned something similar earlier in the thread as well. It was probably made in a comment about May's 'Social Care Policy' shooting herself in the foot. A few days later she did a u-turn without much conviction. Her 'Strong and Stable' mantra is now proving to be something she's not and voters are starting to see through it. Her weak platitudes following the Manchester attack should've been a robust speech on how she was going to be proactive about this problem. But she chose to chant out the same old crap that all the other party leaders came out with. '' They will not defeat our values blah blah blah. ''
 
I think I mentioned something similar earlier in the thread as well. It was probably made in a comment about May's 'Social Care Policy' shooting herself in the foot. A few days later she did a u-turn without much conviction. Her 'Strong and Stable' mantra is now proving to be something she's not and voters are starting to see through it. Her weak platitudes following the Manchester attack should've been a robust speech on how she was going to be proactive about this problem. But she chose to chant out the same old crap that all the other party leaders came out with. '' They will not defeat our values blah blah blah. ''

Yes you did, mate. May was in desperate decline when the Manchester atrocity intervened. Constantly repeating 'strong and stable' whilst performing U-turn after U-turn, just might have done for her. She is a political pragmatist and opportunist and deserves to lose.
 
Yes you did, mate. May was in desperate decline when the Manchester atrocity intervened. Constantly repeating 'strong and stable' whilst performing U-turn after U-turn, just might have done for her. She is a political pragmatist and opportunist and deserves to lose.

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Moving back to the election, here's a bit of fun:

http://uk.isidewith.com/

Tells you who your natural party should be - if you don't have the cop on to realise already :)

I'm a centrist and got Timmy

Quelle surprise! I got UKIP, Tory, Labour, LibDem, Green.

I intend, however, to spoil my ballot paper and make a dirty protest in the polling booth. I am not enamoured of any of them.