Off Topic OLOF's political thread

May weakened but still in place. Ideal result for all of us keen to stay in the EU.

Plus we can look forwards to lots more ‘I’ve been perfectly clear’ s.

 

All been going well in Toryland

 

ERG even more weakened (and even more bitter against May's deal now) but they've ruined the you can not have a 2nd referendum by having forced another vote on May. And now insisting that she resign even though they lost ruins the whole respecting the will of the people 52% is an overwhemingly majority argument.

 

Dbc... are you implying hypocrisy is the only thing alive and kicking in British politics?

 

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Here’s some light reading for anyone interested. The article is a few months old but thought i’d Share it because
A) it’s written by a Leeds fan
B) it compares brexit to Leeds under ridsdale
C) whilst the authors views are fairly transparent, in my opinion it sums up one of the fundamental problems with delivering brexit, irrespective of your views on the subject.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....11/boris-johnson-brexit-dream-fantasy-leavers

 

I was hoping it was an ideal result for those hoping for a no deal hard Brexit...

Roll the clocks back, the Tory’s won the election by a much larger than expected majority, they were able to dump the Lib Dem’s when before the vote they wondered if they’d need to form another coalition and the reason it was larger than expected win? They had promised a referendum, this was a massive clue that many who voted for the Tory’s did so as they wanted to vote exit Europe.

Cameron preached time and time again, the biggest vote in our history, it’s a one time only, we’ll not be having another vote, politicians threw everything behind a remain campaign, yes lies both sides but the remain camp were getting big businesses to preach to their workers.

I met loads of people who said bosses had called them in to “advise” them that jobs would be unsafe if we voted leave. Despite all this we voted leave and now all we keep hearing is we should have another vote. What happened to Mays speech that a no deal is better than a bad one? Both remainers and Brexit voters feel it is a bad deal, her colleagues will vote against her as it’s a bad deal.

We were told vote exit and big business would leave, stocks and shares would crumble, interest rates would rocket, basically we’d go back to the Stone Age and two years on how much has come true?

David Davis was on Sky the other day, the commentator asked a question, didn’t like the answer and started to speak over him time and time again as he (David) didn’t spout the doom and gloom scaremongering that they wanted to hear.

Our press is scum, never do they look at even the slightest possible positives, they just elaborate and magnify the “What if”... They were scaremongering the other day on drugs delays for patients, “within weeks we would run out” was the claim, they went to a supplier who said they’d got three months supply and would cope. The Sky presenter then went on with a series of hypothetical “What ifs” it was terrible journalism.

 

A lot of bollox was pushed down our throats. You mention David Davis, that’s the guy who said we’d be able to do separate deals with Germany on cars, because they’d be desperate to keep our business.

I agree Osborne in particular said the world would fall in the day after we voted Leave, he did that late in the campaign when he was panicking. The real pain will be when we actually do leave.

 

Do you honestly believe BMW, Audi VW will stop selling their cars to one of their biggest markets if they are not part of an unelected club?

 

The biggest problem we all have is that the politicians and the press have hijacked our referendum.
We are not only fighting for or against Brexit but infact for Democracy itself.

 

Exactly mate

 

https://www.thelocal.de/20181011/horror-scenario-how-brexit-could-affect-germany German publication, you can read how bad it is going to be for us, or if you’re on the other side of the fence how bad it is going to be for Germany.

So we stop messing around, we tell the EU we’re heading for a hard Brexit, you know where we are if you want to keep the trade deal going.

Point is the trade deal remaining is good for both, it Going is bad for both. Why should the EU feel they’ll only agree to one if we abide to their demands?

 

Because Groundhog May keeps on going back to them with her begging bowl pleading with them to renegotiate ffs it's humiliating.

Because she's so weak it gives them the impression we'll cave in eventually.

Tell them we're leaving without a deal and taking our £39 billion with us, they'll soon change their tune

 

The majority of Parliament don't want to leave, the corrupt EU almost every politician is a lying bastard, the biggest ****ers started out as lawyers and barristers Like Bliar, says it all really, they are worse than the crooks they served, they say they respect the result of the referendum , do they ****, they are trying every bullshit trick in the book to stop it, it is a charade, organised chaos , to fool the useful idiots, with which we have a few on here, Look lads. we will never agree about who is wrong or right, but, please can we be honest and agree that the bent undemocratic politicians are going against the wishes of the people of Britain and trying to stop Brexit, stop kidding yourselves, you may earn a bit of respect, you ****ing dumb brainwashed ****s

 

And that twat Hammond had the nerve to call Rees-Mogg and all the other hardline brexiteers extremists

They're not extremists, they're the ones trying to support the democratic result of the referendum

The only extremists are ****s like Hammond who go against the majority

 

That, and the undemocratic MPs almost telling the unelected ****s in Brussels that whatever deal the hunchback agrees with, they won't pass it in Parliament making it impossible for the weak bitch
I'll bet the ****s wouldn't have a referendum on just Mays deal and no deal, bent bastards.
Great Britain my arse, laughing stock of the world thanks to the self serving politicians

 

No they’d have a ballot paper with 4 options, one would be remain, the other three would be variations of leave dividing the leave voters and claiming remain wins.

 

Talking about female Prime Ministers going to see the EU reminded me of a quote by Mitterrand about your all-time favourite politician

"Margaret Thatcher has the eyes of Caligula, and the lips of Marylin Monroe"

 

OLOF, sounds a bit like you've resigned yourself to the fact that another referendum is the most likely outcome now?
























Feck, takes two hands to stir with that big spoon.....

 

I've been watching the BBC News of late, 'specially the Brexit stuff. I've noticed that footage of demonstrations on the Beeb nearly always show crowds carrying Euro banners, very rarely Brexit banners.