an inexperienced coach to be manager. In 1976 spurs appointed a coach who had been working for them for a year after being sacked by newcastle utd a year earlier to the role of manager, at the end of that season we were relegated, there is the peril of appointing him, but wait, they didnt sack him, they backed him and gave him time to do the job he believed he could do and what do you know, he became probably our second most successful manager of all time winning the FA cup,the league cup and the eufa cup over the next eight years. that coaches name was kieth burkenshaw. now I am not saying sherwood is going to acheive anything like burkenshaw but I wish fans would get off his back and give him a bit of support at least for a few games and try and get a bit of order back into our great club
It dosen't make much sense to me to treat Sherwood as though he has failed before he has even started. Perhaps somebody could explain why he appears to be a person that attracts such; almost hatred! Despite what some seem to think I believe it's almost impossible to tell who is going to be a success at this football mangement game. Luck, timing, common sense, all play their part in giving time to achieve anything.
Sherwood's had a lack of support from some fans because he's completely inexperienced and people were expecting a more exciting appointment. Harsh, but he's taking over a big job, so it's hardly unexpected. I personally have given him some stick on here, but not because of any feelings about him getting the job. I've simply pointed out what I believe to be mistakes, like his poorly thought out substitution of Adebayor in the West Ham game or his central midfield against West Brom. If he gets things right, then great. If he doesn't, then he'll get criticised. Seems fair to me.
agree spurf, how many managers have actually been succesful at more than one club, my example of burkenshaw proves that it can all come right at one club and not aywhere else
We will always critisize particular tactics/decisions on individual games PNP that's what we do, but there seems to be a real anti Sherwood agenda. I would hope that an English manager who understands the game might be a more positive choice than another Portugese/Spanish/Italian man coming into to impose a foreign game that is niether Spurs nor likely to succeed. IMO Sherwood has all the ingredients required for success, he knows football having played it at the highest level, he has won at the top level, he knows Spurs, he has played for us, he has coaching experience. For all those that say he has NO experience he is being employed as a coach and not a general manager. He may be a disaster but at this stage we surely do not know this.
Unfortunately these examples aren't of any relevance in today's era, just like the Fergie one. If Sherwood failed in his first year he would be sacked. I remember when Jol was sacked, we was playing some superb football but unlucky in games. In another era he would have been given time to turn things round. When Redknapp failed to get 3rd, in another Era the chairman would have sat down, put any differences aside and allowed Redknapp another year. But because of where we are, managers don't get that added year or season, instead chairman panic, listen to advice and go after a new name. Sherwood has been given an 18 month contract, no I didn't want him as manager, yes I thought he was a mouthy toe rag and yes he isn't inspiring on paper but I'll judge him as manager by what he does yet Levy is probably already putting together a list of names to replace him!
Some info for you The idea that all managers should prove themselves in the lower divisions is a good one, but it does not hold true that it is crucial to make a successful coach. Take, for instance, the careers of the 16 managers who will contest the Champions League knockout stages in the spring: nine of them began in management with top-flight clubs. Of those nine, Roberto Mancini (first club, Fiorentina), Laurent Blanc (Bordeaux), Sami Hyypia (Bayer Leverkusen), Diego Simeone (Racing, in Argentina) and Guardiola had august playing careers. It has always been the case that the famous ex-player, who plays his hand well, gets at least one crack at a big job. Others, such as Manuel Pellegrini (Universidad de Chile) and Jens Keller (Stuttgart) had decent, but lower-profile playing careers that led to them starting at top-flight clubs in their home countries. Although part of the championship-winning Strasbourg squad of 1979, Arsène Wenger was mainly an amateur footballer in France, yet he landed his first job in 1984 at top-flight Nancy. Mourinho had no playing career to speak of. ----------------- Basically if someone is going to be a top manager then they don't always need experience. Sometimes timing is key and if Sherwood is talented this job could be the making of him but he will have to make an impact and fairly quickly.
The sentiments expressed by the OP are all well and good - noble, even - but very, very few managers have done a "Burkingshaw." The undeniable fact is that Sherwood is far, far more likely to fail than he is to succeed. This isn't the 60s or the 70s, and football has moved on since those simple days of yore. The idea that Sherwood would, or should, be permitted to take us down a division, at the cost of many tens of millions of pounds, in the hope that he might, eventually, get good enough to deliver for the fans the glory that we have for long been starved of is, to be brutally frank, naive. I would rather that Levy didn't make the mistakes he makes, time and time again, over managers, and that he had not landed us with Sherwood. But, of course, there is absolutely **** all I, or any of us, can do about it. That's the reason why I'm pissed off with all of this. If Sherwood bucks the odds and proves me wrong, that would be a clear bonus. But let not any of us get our hopes up that that is ever likely to happen.
I would have thought some of the reasons why people are against Tim Sherwood are fairly clear. He was a bog standard footballer for us, hasn't got his full coaching badges, has no experience of managing senior players, is an self confessed Arsenal fan, spent his immediate post playing career as a TV pundit where he repeatedly put the club down with his comments and only got back into football because he was a golfing mate of our managers' son. Furthermore, his assistants include a coach who has hitherto mainly worked in a part time capacity and never worked with our first team, a fully qualified coach with loads of other relevant qualifications but is pretty unknown to most fans and a previous assistant manager in the previous regime who in reality was never anything more than a manic cheerleader. Not saying these are my sentiments, but they are certainly a clue to how others might be thinking.
In Sherwood's favour is that he hates losing, he is experienced at winning the premiership, albeit as a Captain rather than a Manager and has been around Tottenham long enough to know what the fans want. He has worked alongside Ramsey, Inglethorpe (in the past) and Clive Allen (in the past) to work miracles with our youth teams outsmarting the best the chavs, manure and the goons have to offer. But most of all he's looking to play attractive football. Everyone has pros and cons and a few skeletons in the cupboard but IMHO he has the right attitude. Give the bloke a chance.
For me, usual rules apply. I don't personally believe that he's the right man for the job anymore than I thought AVB was. However, he has been appointed, so let's give the guy a chance. If he becomes as lost and clueless as our late, unlamented Portugese helmsman, that will be the time to start the witch hunt.
He may appear to be losing his way at about the same time that Holland are knocked out of the World Cup next summer...
I'll keep a burning torch and a pitchfork ready for you. I think we'll find Sherwood hiding out at the old, abandoned windmill.
