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The Only Way is Up

Discussion in 'Wycombe' started by BlueBlowBlue, Nov 13, 2011.

  1. BlueBlowBlue

    BlueBlowBlue New Member

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    An all time low at the w/e. The only way is up......

    Here's what I see. Some great potential shown in performances pre season. Bully rolled it out to Jonno who had the confidence in Tunnicliffe to play it on the floor through the midfield out to our strikers.

    As the season progresses, this has all gone to pot. Bully hoofs it up the field to our tiny strikers who are never going to win the ball. Why? no one trusts big Dave - OK he's great at blocking and winning headers but he has two left feet and has no direction with his headers. So, first action on the road to recovery, drop big Dave and get the back four playing with their feet - watch Charlton for example playing it out from the back. Spain were pretty good at this also!!!

    Next, get some stability in the side. The back four should pick itself (see above), Donnelly, Lewis and Rowlands (pick 2 or all 3). That leaves Beavon an also must. His partner? Pick one from Rendell, Ibe, Benyon, Bignall and I suppose Strevens. Add Grant and Harris and there's a team good enough for League 1.

    Play the same team week in week out - we'll pick up more points that way. As for substitutions, pick "like for like" - I couldn't believe that we had all our strikers on the pitch at the w/e - it was inevitable they would score another. I'm quite keen on Waddock but that sort of desperate action makes me wonder???

    Two other thoughts - practice corners (15 at the w/e and nothing!!) and throw ins - stop chucking it to the other side.

    If we're still at the bottom at Xmas...its all over. But there's still time yet to turn it around. C'mon Waddock, stop dicking around....please read this post!

    Probably won't post again, but sometimes you have to get the frustration off your chest!!
     
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  2. Ron

    Ron Well-Known Member
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    It would be nice to think the only way is up but, unfortunately, it isn't and, even more unfortunately, probably won't be. All the signs are that we are going in the wrong direction. As advised earlier, snap up the 5/4 against for Wycombe to be relegated. If you lose your money, who cares. If we get relegated, there's a small consolation.
     
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  3. devonblue

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    Im with Ron im afraid. If we were looking objectively at any other team in our position that was leaking silly goals, losing to similar size teams down the bottom with us, not scoring anything like the amount of goals we need, an unsettled starting line up and reliance on 2 young teenagers, we all know what conclusion we would get to. I hate being down on WWFC but we have to be realistic. I dont want to see a change in manager - I still believe Waddock is the man - but we DESPERATELY need someone or something to spark us into life. Maybe a loan signing or two......
     
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  4. Ron

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    I'm guessing morale is low off the pitch as well as on. Hayes is probably in the mix somewhere. I'm sure Ivor Beeks was more visible in his day than Hayes is. How many times have we heard one peep from Hayes (or even about him from the media) since he was refused planning permission? More problems ahead I fear, unless he sells to someone genuinely interested in the club, with pots of money.
     
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  5. josewwfc

    josewwfc Well-Known Member

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    i have been thinking about what the major change is at wycombe since last season which has caused this poor run and low confidence. i wonder if it could be martin khul? waddock did his best under him and i wonder if its was khul and not waddock who was the main motivator of the team in the last year

    thoughts?
     
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  6. Ron

    Ron Well-Known Member
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    That is a thought. Hadn't occurred to me for some reason. Quite often the success in any sphere is down to the No 2, if they are closer to the team.
     
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  7. wandermagic

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    When Kuhl left we went on our best run of the season.
     
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  8. devonblue

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    I think we could speculate endlessly about who or what is the cause of our slump. To be honest there isnt much point in looking back and trying to find someone or something to blame - Id suggest looking at how we can get out of this would be more constructive.........

    1) We need a striker. Id like to see someone in the Tommy Moody, Scott Mcgliesh mould. An experienced, combative 'up and at em' style striker who can lead the line.

    2) Defence needs to stop conceding silly goals. We dont look anywhere near as solid as last year....

    3) We need to forget about relying on Ibe and Harris. Dont get me wrong, these guys seem to be serious prospects but they simply do not have the experience required to be relied upon to get us out of this. They cant be expected to play every game.

    Im trying to stay positive - lets get behind the lads, we didnt go from being a decent team to a rubbish one in a few months. In Waddock we trust.
     
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  9. gravey5174

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    Here here devon.

    Little point in crying over spilt milk as they say its happened and we have to look to find solutions to solve this.

    My initial thought a few weeks back was to revert to a 5 man midfield and dictate games from there through more control in the middle, which he has moved to but it is still not solving the problem of being able to put the ball in the back of the net. I do though disagree with the looking solid last year.

    Too many times we were reliant on Nikki Bull to keep us in games and what with a step up in level it was always going to be harder for him to keep performing the heroics he was last season consequently more goals would be conceded. In this respect i think a defender who can organise and talk is just as important as the goalscorer that is needed. For all the good that johnson provides this aspect of his game isn't there and as for Winfield and Tunnicliffe i've seen more leadership in my big toe than either of those.

    Scoring wise strevens needs to go and yeah a big rough em up type player would be good and a good foil for beever i would have thought to.
     
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  10. Ron

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    I hope I'm wrong but I can't see it happening. Morale is low; must be a reason. Likely reason is Hayes (just my opinion) and if that is correct he won't be forking out. His dream is up in smoke. No stadium, no Championship side; just a team in L1 on it's way to L2. He hasn't made himself visible to the fans because he doesn't want to know. His only interest is to sell and get out. Very difficult to motivate a team in such circumstances.

    OK Steve Hayes, surprise me, and many others. Show your commitment to WWFC

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  11. Rocky blue army

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    your spot on there ron
     
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  12. woburnsandsdon

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    Do you think you'll bring many to our place this Saturday lads ? Looking forward to a good game and 3 points hopefully :)
     
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  13. Ron

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    You might need some stones in your pocket to keep track of the score WSD. If you want to see a good game you might be better off watching one of your practice sessions. We couldn't beat your reserves at present.
     
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  14. MBUWWFC

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    The Movember brigade will be there and so will the Village Girlies! The mo'brotherhood need sponsoring on mobro.co/growamowithwycombe or on my own page mobro.co/ALKY007
     
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  15. WWFCCALZY

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    Woburnsandsdon, pretty sure u will get ur three points unless the big away noise manage to spur on the team, although however loud we are at the moment doesnt seem to work, should be around 2-3000 of us, thats our usual away attendance at ur place.
     
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  16. Jenny!

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    Go put in a bid for Matty Harrold over at the Gash. You never know.. ;)
     
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  17. Finchyblue

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    Calzy I hope you are joking with your estimation of our away support! We barely get that in the way of home support at the moment!

    As for the picking of the team, Rowlands staying fit seems to be an issue. The forward line aside from Beavon are any of Rendell, Benyon or Strevens good enough for league 1? I have my doubts. I haven't included Bignall as he went back to Reading a long time ago! Ibe shouldn't be relied on as a starter every week, 10-15 starts with a host of sub appearances should be the aimed use of him this year. Grant is so up and down I wouldn't suggest he is good enough to help keep us up. Harris is solid but a definite work in progress, he loses position a lot drifting inside so again I would be looking at 25-30 starts for him rather than the all the games.

    I just simply cannot see how our squad is good enough to stay up, as I can't see where the creativity, the consistent goals or the ability to keep them out is coming from.
     
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  18. Ron

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    Apart from that though, it's looking good.
     
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  19. Rocky blue army

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    probably about 700 blues fans will go to mk because we all fear a good hiding but we live in hope
     
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  20. WWFCCALZY

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    Ok my estimation is based on previous years and I hear what you say Finchy, however i think there is enough willing to go on the "hope" of a shock result and how sweet it would be to get back on track against the dons. I think more than 700 Rocky but yes my estimation I will agree was maybe a tad high.
     
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