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The North London Power shift

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by Bergkampspilot, Dec 19, 2013.

  1. Bergkampspilot

    Bergkampspilot Active Member

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    Spuds seem unwilling to discuss it these days.... A few seasons back you couldn't shut them up.
     
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  2. PowerSpurs

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    It's on hold for the moment. I can still remember when the power shift was you overtaking us and I'm young enough to still expect us to get back in front of you at some stage. Grim times for us though.
     
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  3. enigma

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    Did you not know it has already happened, apparently none of our players would get into their team, or so they were claiming at the beginning of the season <laugh>
     
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  4. PowerSpurs

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    I'm not sure its the standard of the players - but you have a team and we don't currently
     
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  5. Bergkampspilot

    Bergkampspilot Active Member

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    I think you'll find its a manager that's missing from your lineup. The team is very much intact if not slightly depressed. You need to sort a good manger ASAP as the damage to your club could evolve into a situation you may not recover from.

    I predict hard times ahead for spurs.
     
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  6. Khedron

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    ask Levy for a manager and a striker for christmas and the new year should be much better
     
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  7. ToledoTrumpton

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    I have to say that most of your new players came with a lot of hype. They were all billed with the most glowing terms and the most optimistic outlooks.

    I hate to go back to Dembele, but for me, he was a real case in point.

    This is a guy who was billed as world class when he moved to Spurs, yet when I checked his record, he looked distinctly average, very nearly a Fulham reject. A few flashes of brilliance here and there I grant you, but the press on him was such that you would expect him to be doing far, far, more.

    And that is really it multiplied x10, more or less in every new players case.

    No doubt one or two of them will improve, but I think Spurs fans are kidding themselves if they think these players are certain to take them where they want to go.
     
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  8. Arsenal87

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    What about when your team was supposedly superior to us in 2012 and 2013, yet we still ended above you. :). Face it, even with your very best team in a long time, which had the likes of Modric, Van der vart, Bale etc, you still couldn't finish above us when we were probably at our weakest point in a very long time during those 2 years.

    For goodness sakes, with a team composed of Chamakh, Santos, Gervino, Squilachi, Arshavin, and some others, we still ended above you! In the start of the 2012 season we too didn't have a team, we signed 5 new players on deadline day, including average players like Park, Santos, and Benayoun, we were in 17th place in September, losing 2-0 to Pool at home, 8-2 to United, 4-3 to Blackburn, and STILL ended above you that season.

    Now though, we finally seem to be on the upwards with the financial shackles coming off, so if you couldn't overtake us then, don't see how you expect to overtake us now, that was your time to have a brief moment of finishing above Arsenal, and you still couldn't take it. Mind you, even if you did, it wouldn't amount to a power shift, power shift= doing it on a regular consistent basis, as in 5-10 years in a row, and adding some nice silverware to go with it, not just ending 1 season above us.
     
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  9. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    There has been a power shift in North London

    From N17 to Upton Park

    <ok>
     
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  10. Han Shot First

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    I'm going to hold off on trolling until we get past the Chelsea game, because with us facing Mourinho, and Mike Dean as ref, we could look very foolish if we were to troll them, yet finish the weekend in a lowly 4th place.
     
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  11. PowerSpurs

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    If we had been able to swap managers in those years I think we'd have finished above you
     
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  12. gooner4ever

    gooner4ever once a Gooner always a Gooner
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    agree with you, but our record against Mourinho [we have never beaten him] has to change eventually and maybe this is the time [please Santa]
     
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  13. Not PC enough

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    Trolling is over rated .
    Im more interested in honest debate.

    Spurs DID see a period where they seemed to be certainly increasing their quality and their success .

    Under harry they got into the champions league for the first time.

    The way i see it , they wanted too much , too quickly .
    To sack the guy who had shown them some promise , on the off chance that a new guy would somehow finish the job .

    Short sighted and stupid.
    Unfortunately , their purple patch coincided with a really poor period for Arsenal , this gave them even more false hope that they could move quickly to the next level and usurp us.

    Now the chickens have come home to roost .

    Employing a manager that had been proved to be poor at man management and Chelsea had discarded .
    Short sighted planning ..........buying players that are good but , nowhere near enough to replace an outstanding player that they were over reliant on .

    Now they are weaker than ever when they need to attract a proper manager .
    If they dont get that right they will stuggle to get fourth or even 5th place this season with all the financial implications that follow .
    I wonder how many Spurs fans would wind back the clock and stick with Redknapp for a few more seasons .
     
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  14. PINKIE

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    You forgot to add that they did all of this whilst also spending a whopping 110m on the squad. <ok>
     
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  15. Not PC enough

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    I dont think i need to say that , on the basis that you point it out in every single post you make .

    :laugh:

    "pi$sed up the wall " i think is the phrase you prefer most .
     
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  16. Han Shot First

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    To be fair, they spent about 30 million, because of the Bale sale. We had a far higher net spend than them this summer, and we only bought 1 player (Flamini and Diaby mk.2 were free), who's looking like a waste of money.
     
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  17. SpursDisciple

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    We broke even if you factor in Huddlestone, Caulker, Dempsey, Parker.

    http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/tottenham-hotspur/transfers/verein_148.html
     
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  18. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    You think Ozil was a waste of money ? I think all I can say is that you're entitled to your opinion mate <ok>
     
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  19. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    It takes nothing away from the fact that you still spunked over a hundred million up the wall.

    Liverpool sold Torres for fifty million and then spent the majority of it on Carroll and still raked in fifteen million profit. You think that was good business ?
     
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  20. Not PC enough

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    The sheer amount of players they bought in one go , its like , instant team .

    That aint gonna work straight away and to be honest , it might NEVER work .

    hell of a gamble , that 80 million could have been spent on 2 TOP players , to have a crack at the season in front of them , then see where you are and go from there .

    It just seems like he had in his mind , " ok ive got one season to be a blistering success , ok ill buy six reasonable players "

    err , you already had six reasonable players , thats why you had a reasonably successful season

    if you want to move up a gear you need 2 TOP drawer players .

    crackers !
     
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