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  1. Red Robin

    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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    Roy Hodgson has been asked for interview.

    Well what do you think of that boys and girls.

    Put the right man in charge I say stop pussy footing around with your yes men.

    Get the the Right man in as the whole football world expects and knows.

    The only contender Harry Rednapp.
     
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  2. Ashton Matt

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    I have to say I would give Roy a chance. He's done a really good job with West Brom and Harry's arguably under-achieved with the best starting 11 in the Premier League IMO.

    Everyone wants a top name manager but it doesn't guarantee success. On a much lower scale I was completely underwhelmed and annoyed at the Welsh FA when they appointed Gary Speed because he had no experience and had done a **** job with Sheffield Utd but he took Wales from 117 to 40 in the world rankings within a year. I honestly believe we could have had Fergie, Wenger, Mourinho or Guardiola and none of them would have achieved what Speedo did and he also did it by playing attractive football.

    So I'm saying give Roy a chance if he is installed as England manager. What's Harry ever achieved anyway? Oh yeah winning an FA Cup final against a Championship side!
     
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  3. BrightredRickster

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    Both look possibly good, although I worry about the fact that they don't have many cups to throw between them.

    On the other hand, Capello and Errikson both did and they didn't set the world on fire for England exactly.
    Its what you do in tournaments that mark you succesful, both as player and manager. Germany are often do-able in friendlies, and in qualifiers we saw in Munich with the 5-1. It didn't stop them getting to the 2002 final.

    For Harry or Roy, it is a good time to be taking the job because the dirty stuff has already been done getting us there.

    We have some bright young players: Welbeck, Johnson, Harte etc. But its a real pity we wont have Wilshere or Cleverley. I really really hope we take Oxlade Chamberlain, because he gives us something we haven't had since Gascoigne or Rooney first appeared - a potential match winner and English youngster with sublime ability
     
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  4. andyyandyy

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    Roy did a good ob with both Fulham and West Brom but when he had a chance at a bigger team in Liverpool he choked.

    As for Harry, some would argue that he is the reason 3 of the 4 Premier league teams he has managed has been relegated by over spending on players and running those teams in to the ground, picking up a nice earner on the side to his off shore account. Recent form with Spurs hasnt helped.

    Choice of managers who are English is a very short list if you are looking for managers with experience. Some teams like France in recent years have appointed maagers with next to no previous experience in Laurent Blanc and he has been doing really well.
    It would be an interesting experiment in a friendly to have the chosen captain pick the squad and team and be like a captain is in cricket with a head coach to work along side.

    If I had to pick a manager at the moment I would go hollohead as none of his press conferences would be boring. He is a man who gives off so much passion and his career as manager is good getting Blackpool to the prem and I think they will go up again this season. Could you see Hollohead allowing Rooney not to sing the national athem?

    Who ever gets the job I hope they only get given a 2 year contract to the end of the next world cup. These 4 or 5 year contracts have cost us too many times in payouts in recent years
     
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  5. redallover157

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    Red Robin, I thought you were just clueless about out club, turns out it's about football in general as well.

    'Arry isn't a better manager than Woy. And to andyyandyy, Roy Hodgson managed Inter. A club where he wasn't the big name appointment they wanted and had to manage in a period of instability and extended rebuilding. Sound familiar? How about the fact King Kenny has only managed mildly better results than Roy did during his tenure, despite spending more money than our club has spent in its history several times over.
     
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  6. RedorDead

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    I think Roy Hodgson would be a good choice, I have said from the beginning to my English work mates that, Harry is good at wheeling and dealing. But you can't do that at international level. You rely on what you have.

    I thought Pardew would of been a good choice. But Woy does do well at getting the best out of players. People can say about Liverpool but he had 6 months!! Dalgliesh has spent all the money and still got them nowhere. Bet he don't get sacked.

    As Aston Matt said, when we appointed Speed I was not happy but look what happened there.

    The press will say should of had Harry but that's probably because he is a column writer for most so they could still pick the team for him. Maybe Woy might not be like that and bring out the best in England.
     
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  7. pirate49

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    I'm not against the choice of Hodgson. He's got international experience, has had
    success at Fulham and WBA, is multi-lingual and obviously a thinker about the game.
    Just because 'arry is a geezer and popular with the press boys doesn't make him the
    right choice.
    People may hold Hodgson's failure at Liverpool against him, but with Kenny round every
    corner he hardly stood a chance. Redknap's got charisma, but he's no Clough.
    If they appoint Hodgson I'd say it's a sound choice. If the players don't like it then
    the tail's wagging the body.
     
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  8. andyyandyy

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    The whole king kenny this season has been a circus and probably still only has the liverpool fans support because of what he did as a player. Yes he has won the league cup and has a very good chance of winning the fa cup but they are too many points behind the leaders come the end of the season. They owners have a transfer policy of buying under performing players on the cheap and getting the best out of them something that has worked for their baseball team yet at liverpool it appears they did the opposite of buying players who had 1 very good season so worth more than they are. Shows that kennys buying british policy is expensive compared to newcastles buy from abroad. Some would argue that kenny is the reason liverpool have not won the league since the old first division when he dismantled a league winning team and bought players who were not good enough, sound familar. History repeats its self.

    And yes Roy managed inter a long time ago. He has also managed Bristol City unsuccessfully as well
     
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  9. andyyandyy

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    I will say whoever gets the job should be given a chance.

    Cant see Roy naming Stevie G captain after his comments about Roy as a manager when he left Liverpool
     
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    Lets give Woy a chance, I'm sure he'll get the best out of Wooney.
     
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    As long as the ridiculous Stuart Pearce doesn't get it I'm not that concerned but would much prefer Harry to Roy.

    Harry's problem is Trevor Brooking.
     
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    Although Harry was flavour of the month with the press, Roy has got much more international experience. Harry wouldnt be able to do his wealing and deaing which is one of his main strengths.

    Although I'm still expecting Millan to be given the job <whistle>
     
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  13. BrightredRickster

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    Millan ?

    Thats a city isn't it ?

    Either manager would be a breath of English air after all that Italian Salami
     
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  14. Ashton Matt

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    Another point to be made is that because is isn't the media darling that Harry is will he be vilified if England fail to get at least to the semis in the summer.

    Hodgson needs to be given time to get this right. If he has any sense he will do what Lowe has done with the Germans which was coming in, getting rid of the old guard and building a team of youngsters. It didn't start well for him but the German FA and the press gave him time and look at them now. Super showing in the last World Cup and I think they will win the Euros this summer.

    It's about time manager came in and consigned Terry, Ferdinand, Cole, Lampard and Gerrard to the history books because all of them are but mere former shadows of themselves. Let's get the Cahill's, Richards, Walkers, Welbeck's of this world playing together instead.
     
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  15. tiger-emyrs-wolf

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    if we have roy it'll be the most defensive England has ever been to me its gotta be harry not for his media but the fact he knows what an England team needs and hes use to working with British players
     
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  16. BrightredRickster

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    So is Roy

    Agreed that we bring the new breed in, but our new engine room is missing which is Wilshere and Cleverley. However we do have Oxlade Chamberlain, and I hope we take him.
    Parker is a must in front of our defence, although his style could see a few injuries.

    All in all, I think we are still a way short of quality to win the competition, and will remain so until the FA remove their heads from up their behinds and put together an academy to rival the Spanish and the Germans
     
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    Whoever was going to get it sort of has a free pass at this tournament as well. Big things aren't exactly expected of England, especially with Rooney being vacant for two games and Wilshere/Cleverely missing the entire thing. After the worst World Cup showing in decades, Woy can expect to not face the crucible of expectation Capello had despite two very successful qualification campaigns.
     
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  18. andyyandyy

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    Its clear that the presss wanted Harry but as Spurs fans I know have said thats because he is very open to the presss and will give information away about players who are coming and going when they think the club shouldnt be talking about transfer targets.

    Guess Roy has been an international manager previously and will cost less than what Harry wants. Also Harry is now saying he is disappointed not to get the job then why not admit that he would take it at the end of the season rather than say he has unfinished business at Spurs, maybe that put the England boses off as last thing they want to do is offer the job to a manager who rejects it.
     
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  19. Red Robin

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    Let's just say we agree to disagree great one.


    Just shows how little depth we have in our British management,when you consider RH is their best option.
     
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    I'll support whoever gets it.

    Probably not my first choice but I haven't exactly been on the Harry bandwagon either, sometimes you never know till you try these things.

    Sometimes the smallest candle burns brightest..

    looking forward to a team of.

    Wobbinson,

    Wichards Tewwy wio and bwidge

    Bawwy Gewward wight philips and wooney

    Cwouch and Stuwwidge
     
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