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The New! "Schumacher" domination is coming with Vettel...

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by 51LV3R8RR04, Jul 24, 2013.

  1. 51LV3R8RR04

    51LV3R8RR04 Well-Known Member

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    No it has nothing to do just because he is in the best team with the best designer at his side. But that the fact is the field is filling up with more and more rubbish pay drivers like Max Chilton, VDG, Maldonado, Grosjean, Massa and Esteban who are hired more for their money and influence rather than actual talent and performances which is making Seb's life easier and easier every new season that comes around.

    You know it's a tragedy when the likes of Hulk cannot get paid a full wage and the likes of Frijns unable to get into a seat into F1. Having the likes of Massa and Grosjean driving sub-par all season in a top team, yet never have their seat under threat from a better driver is nothing short of a joke. For me the worse is yet to come, Seb will dominate longer than Schumacher's reign with Red Bull and Newey by his side that's for a certain if this crap continues!

    Alonso, Kimi and Jenson are not far off retiring lets be honest, 1-2 of them could be gone within the next 3 years and in 5 years all 3 will be gone that I'm certain of, that only really leaves 2 top drivers: Seb and Lewis. The only problem with Lewis is that I think he is only 2 stone throws away from leaving F1 entirely with the way he has been acting around F1 over the last 2 years.


    I don't think he is enjoying it anymore as much as he is used to and Seb has already broke him mentally as well as Alonso, give it a few more title misses against Seb and he'll retire early. Lewis leaving F1 though would leave a massive void to challenge Vettel in the long run in my opinion, apart from Lewis there's only really Hulk and maybe Di Resta who could take the fight to him. The rest are just not that talented and will make life real easy for Seb for a good amount of years after rest of the elite F1 drivers above have retired.

    It will eventually turn out that it wont have anything to do with the opinion that Seb will have the "better car" it will be all about how crap the field is against this 1 elite driver and nobody is good enough to challenge him because it's full of pay drivers.

    F1 needs a real shakeup and not the technical type but the whole driver selection thought process! We pay for entertainment for the best drivers, not ****!
     
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  2. 51LV3R8RR04

    51LV3R8RR04 Well-Known Member

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    My grid:

    RBR: Vettel + Kimi
    Ferrari: Alonso + Hulk
    Mercedes: Lewis + Rosberg
    Lotus: Ricciardo + Frijns
    McLaren: Button + Magnussen
    Force India: Bottas + Bianchi
    Sauber: Vandoorne + Di Resta
    Toro Rosso: Da Costa + Sainz Jr <3
    Williams: Perez + Nasr
    Marussia: Grosjean + Maldonado
    Caterham: Kubica + Wickens

    Better than the grid today, all overtaking action and 95% off all the drivers there are all top draw and also half the moronic mistakes.
     
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  3. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

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    I fear you could be right on the Seb domination thing as a whole, the rest of it made me chuckle.

    Your grid is made up of a lot of novices, so why not just scrap F1 and stick everyone into GP2!?
     
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  4. (Conor)

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    Child, please...
     
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  5. cosicave

    cosicave Well-Known Member

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    Your opening post is an interesting one, SAINZ(Silver).
    Regardless of allegiances, you have made an important point about the structure of F1, which, oddly enough, I have just hinted at in another thread; albeit through a completely different route.

    I'll try to keep a close eye on this thread to see what develops.
     
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  6. 51LV3R8RR04

    51LV3R8RR04 Well-Known Member

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    Doesn't matter as I consider these novices better drivers than most of the current field already and with much more time for improvement. Even a hadicapped Kubica is better than some on the grid today.
     
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  7. Di Resta is faster than u

    Di Resta is faster than u Active Member

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    Apart from the bit about Vettel having mentally broken Hamilton and Alonso I completely agree.

    I also wouldn't be surprised to see Hamilton leave early, he seems far to obsessed with the celeb stuff and the on/off Nicole thing. If he doesn't get a championship winning car soon I can see him going. Raikkonen is another who could easily decide to leave while still being a top driver.

    I don't see Alonso going before he wants to though and I don't see him declining anytime soon.

    Unfortunately there are indeed many pay drivers around now and its not great.
     
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  8. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

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    One the common gripes on this forum is about inexperienced drivers and how safe they are. Having nearly half the grid made up of young buck-shots all trying to prove a point is asking for trouble.

    There has to be a mix of newbies, seasoned pro's and those looking to make the next step up in their careers to make a balanced grid. Too many old duffers and everyone wants young blood, too many young blood and everyone harks back to the 'good old days' of the 'greats', too many pay drivers with no talent and everyone lambasts F1 generally!

    It's very easy to pick a driver who has done well in jnr formula and cry a travesty if he doesn't make it to F1. There are more decent drivers who never made it to F1 than you can shake a stick it, buts that's the way its always been.

    As gets reminded, pay drivers aren't all bad, but whilst you cn say its unfair that some drivers miss out because they have no money, someone has to pay out cash so they can drive. If the team has no sponsors of its own, how can it afford for a driver to come in who has no backing? Like it or not, motorsport is expensive. Someone has to bring money in.
     
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  9. Max Whiplash

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    <laugh> SILVER HAS SPOKEN!!
     
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  10. 51LV3R8RR04

    51LV3R8RR04 Well-Known Member

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    Ok maybe I'm jumping too conclusions on the breaking part, just that in Psychology you wouldn't really call that a healthy transition of personalities from "nice boy" to "snoop dog mk" 2 in a span of a few years, this at the same time Vettel started to beat him on a regular basis, some people call that an "identity crisis" If you're interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_crisis_(psychology).

    Plus with this new found desire to "discuss Vettel" any chance he gets seems to be that he blames Seb for his lifestyle, but that could be him and his management working up the crowd and influenced by the media etc to get more "viewers, readers" but Seb has become pretty popular in his array of conversations with the media now.

    Alonso just looked drained at the end of 2012 and still looks it now into this year, he isn't himself in my opinion and that soul crushing stare he had at Brazil was Vettel destroying his hopes and dreams there and then. But again all my own opinion.

    Though I was classified insane years ago so maybe best to ignore me. The government wont get me lucky charms!
     
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  11. Max Whiplash

    Max Whiplash Well-Known Member

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    Ok, so...

    1. Vettel's a top driver
    2. Red Bull - both as a sporting entity and as an aggressive business
    3. Team finances
    4. The driver market (see point 3)

    It seems to me that these are the main reasons for Seb's dominance and for why it will likely continue.

    I can't agree with the Lewis stuff. I think, like Alonso, he'll keep fighting; he's not of the Kimi mentality and I don't think that he's as bothered by the celeb stuff as is perceived.

    It's true that the sport is in a state but, as in the world at large, there's an extreme financial inequality that has brought it to this place. A conspicuous symptom of this is the number of 'pay drivers' but there's still a lot of talent on the grid who could challenge if the conditions were better.
     
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  12. 51LV3R8RR04

    51LV3R8RR04 Well-Known Member

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    You might as well keep calling me silver, will change my name again after the timer runs down.
     
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  13. Di Resta is faster than u

    Di Resta is faster than u Active Member

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    Also Vettel domination isn't on its way, its been here for a few years now.
     
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  14. Max Whiplash

    Max Whiplash Well-Known Member

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    Er, yes, good point!
     
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  15. 51LV3R8RR04

    51LV3R8RR04 Well-Known Member

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    If he wins his 4th in a row then yeah you can sort of classify it as domination, but I expect worse if pay drivers keep coming in.
     
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  16. Han Shot First

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    It's all Bernie's fault. If the money was spread more evenly, then the likes of Frijns and Magnusson would have legit shots at seats, because teams wouldn't need to hire joke drivers just for some cash.

    At this rate, it'll be like the late 80's, early 90's again soon. Lavaggi and Deletraz anyone?
     
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  17. (Conor)

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    I've been waiting for the chance to say this...Deletraz has a kid racing in Formula Renault this season <laugh>
     
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  18. Han Shot First

    Han Shot First New Member

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    <laugh> Oh god no. At least he can't be as bad as his dad.
     
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