Good Morning. It's Tuesday 10th November, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road Leeds hierarchy ask Premier League to clarify offside rule Andrea Radrizzani and Angus Kinnear have asked the Premier League and the referees' body PGMOL to clarify the offside rule following Patrick Bamford's disallowed goal against Crystal Palace on Saturday. Leading to what should have been the equaliser, Bamford pointed (to Klich) where he wanted the ball. According to VAR, his outstretched arm was offside. However, your arm / hand is the only part of the body that you cannot score from. ESPN journalist Dale Johnson has stepped up to try and explain the issue. Apparently, new rules allowing the ball to hit your upper arm mean that it is also easier to be offside. Surely, his upper arm (and lets be honest, we are talking about the shoulder and the very top of your arm) would have still made him onside! Was Bielsa wrong not to criticise the decision? We may see his stance as professional, but authorities may see it as weak, vulnerable and an easy target. please log in to view this image Hernandez told to bury hatchet with Bielsa According to the Daily Express, Pablo Hernandez has been told to mend the rift between himself and Marcelo Bielsa as it is not a healthy environment for the club. Hernandez was outraged following being substituted during the Leicester City game The Spaniard threw his armband to the ground, before kicking water bottles on the side. Subsequently, the veteran midfielder was left out of the squad that were mauled by Crystal Palace last weekend. Bielsa has tried to make out that Hernandez was left out for tactical reasons! Surely, there would no inconceivable reason why at least our talisman wouldn't be used at least as a second half substitute? After the hammering at Selhurst Park, Bielsa was asked why Hernandez wasn't playing. He replied “Pablo is fit, he wasn’t in the squad for today’s game,” “I evaluate all the players for the upcoming game and didn’t pick him for this game. If you feel the decision was strange, I choose the 18 players I feel are apt for the game.” please log in to view this image Leeds United's football ground will be central to regeneration in the city in the coming years Leeds City Council's chief officer of economic development Eve Roodhouse claims Leeds United's football ground will be central to regeneration in the city in the coming years! The club hopes to turn the former site of Matthew Murray High School in South Leeds into its training centre, replacing their present training ground Thorp Arch. Not only is Thorp Arch a 30 - 40 minute drive away from Elland Road as apposed to a five minute commute to the South Leeds site, but Leeds don't own Thorp Arch, and pay huge sums of rent to Anthony Calvert, a Tory Councillor for Wakefield and owner of Anthony Calvert Ltd There are also plans for an £8m Park Life community sports hub, next to the Elland Road facilitating community football. Roodhouse was quoted as saying "The ground will find itself at the heart of lots of transformations in the city over the coming years. But we are totally going to offer our support to the club on links that we already have in place which we want to drive forwards further, not least those relationships with China." The club will soon be putting new floodlights up at the stadium, said the club's head of commercial Stuart Dodsley. But he couldn't offer a timeline for a reputed new stand at the 37,000 capacity ground. The club has 20,000 people on a waiting list for season tickets. Dodsley said: "It certainly takes longer than six months to build a stand. Look how long it has taken Fulham without having people in the ground right now. But thankfully we have a senior management team which has been involved in similar projects before. Angus Kinnear (chief executive) worked at Arsenal and at West Ham for the change from the Olympic Stadium. "To have 20,000 people on a waiting list is incredible and we have to try to get these people into the grounds as quickly as we can to capitalise on the momentum we have." please log in to view this image
No surprise on the Pablo thing. I mentioned last week I thought he could go same way as Pontus if he wasn't careful. Re developing ground, it still hinges on where we are when virus is eliminated and clubs can fill their grounds again and of course what division were in at that point. We need to be an established mid table club at least in my opinion to talk of adding 20k seats regardless of waiting list. Have no doubt, if relegated, that waiting list would evaporate overnight
Whenever I see that aerial shot of ER and all the room available behind the Kop and West Stand it just screams out for redevelopment. Surely no other club in the PL could have such an open goal of an opportunity ?
Pablo would be stupid if he thought he would get a win over Bielsa. Pablo needs to be thankful that Bielsa gave him a new contract at his age. Yes he has been a great player for us and was the best in the club for a couple of seasons, but not anymore. He hardly features this season either through injury or poor form. He should concentrate on getting his A game back or he will end up back in Spain coaching the kids at his part owned football club. VAR is a laughing stock and embarrassment and either needs scrapping or doing properly
Morning all... Pablo apologised to the fans, he said he reacted wrong so I’m sure he has made peace with Bielsa. No Bielsa was not wrong to remain quiet on the offside decision, the day he starts complaining is the day you change the make up of the guy and what he stands for and how he operates.
Morning all, Bielsa was right to not comment on the offside. He is a step above nearly every other manager in that he doesn't trot out meaningless platitudes and the same old boring predictable rubbish. All his answers are well thought out and his views on, Well everything, are more intelligent then most manager's will ever hope to be. No way he should start giving out soundbites for sky or talksport or the likes.
It would be easy to fix VAR in 5 seconds...any fan could do it it's not difficult. 1) For offside - draw one line across the pitch from the last defender...if the attacking player is not visually beyond that line then he's onside. In other words he has to appear offside to the naked eye. Do not get forensic on it. Any part of the players arms do not count. 2) Handball - revert back to handball having to be deliberate and at the referees discretion...match referee to review at full speed (using different views/angles) on pitch side monitor. Do not get forensic on it, let the referee confirm or otherwise his intial decision. 3) Penaties for fouls and adjudging whether inside or outside the penalty area - match referee to review at full speed (using different views/ angles) on pitch side monitor. Do not get forensic on it, let the referee confirm or otherwise his initial decision.
Or introduce something like Cricket has in place, only allow teams to make an appeal and only use VAR when a goal has been scored. Two wrong appeals you’ve used up your rights.
I see where Leicester have now won eight penalties in eight games and surprise surprise, they're top of PL
I love Marcelo to bits but if Bielsa hadn't made such a ridiculous substitution he wouldn't have a problem with Pablo now. In the end he has cut his nose off to spite his face which could have cost us from achieving any points at Palace.
It's blatantly obvious that referees favour certain clubs with the Dirty Leeds tag to be shot at, you only have to go back to the late 60's/70's when Leeds were robbed of gaining at least five trophies to add to their silverware cabinet. It does help if a club plays in red as they are generally loved & admired more so than Leeds United. Mike Dean is a classic case of biasness, he is a first class **** amongst a arrogant breed of referees. European Cup Cup Winners Cup First Division title x 2 FA Cup Expect more unfavourable decisions towards our club in the future
I think Bielsa is a stubborn old goat but that’s a weakness and a strength. With regard to Pablo.. whether he was right to substitute him is completely irrelevant. It’s his decision and his alone to make. I personally like it when players are disappointed to be substituted because I want them to care and I want them to think they should be playing. But Bielsa doesn’t accept any shows of insubordination and Pablo went OTT. Same rules for everyone, no room for petulance. So he’s right to not play him in my opinion. If we were weaker against palace because he was missing that’s his fault not bielsa’s. He was arguably the worst player on the pitch in the first half so was lucky to come out for the second. I did think he was playing much better in the second half - but he doesn’t pick the team or make the calls.
In the rules about offside with regards to the upper arm...it states; ' If the player is wearing a long sleeve shirt the exact position as to where the bottom of the arm pit is will be at the discretion of the official ' For clarification; A ball striking the upper arm from the shoulder to level with the bottom of the arm pit is now not considered to be a handball offence...so as a goal can now be scored with this part of the body and it therefore can be judged offside.
Don’t forget winning the league, we were made to play Wolves on the Monday after playing Arsenal in the FA cup final on the Saturday, bent FA cnuts.
Problem we have with offside officialdom are over complicating everything as usual Simple answer the feet denote wether a player is offside simples
That doesn't alter how VAR is making decisions though...just reduces the referal rate. Too many goals are being disallowed for extremely marginal decisions and excessive penalties are being awarded due to both the rules themselves and the forensic implementation of VAR.
Or better still, scrap it now, get back the flow of the game we all fell in love with and let’s concentrate on the main thing, the football, not wasting bloody time watching referees coming to a (wrong) decision
That'll never change Eire. I don't know what the answer is but if a human can't see the obvious when looking at VAR, why have it. I have to be honest, between var and covid I'm not enjoying the Prem.
