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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tue 23rd Oct)

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  1. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member
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    Good Morning Everyone

    Leeds are being linked to a move for two-time Premier League winner Samir Nasri.

    The former Marseille and Citeh attacking midfielder is currently without a club.

    The 31 yo is currently serving a six-month ban from UEFA, for breaching WADA rules. (In December 2016 by receiving an intravenous drip of 500 millilitres of water containing nutrients.)

    On 1 August 2018, Nasri's ban was increased by an extra 12 months following an appeal from UEFA's ethics and disciplinary inspector!




    There are rave reviews coming out of Dancaster about Leeds on loan striker Mallik Wilks. The 19 year old has impressed Rovers boss Grant McCann and talks are underway to extend his loan period until the end of the season.




    Left back Barry Douglas is back in training and could feature tomorrow night against the Tractor boys. Good news too about Jack Harrison. He is expected to be fit for the Forest game on Saturday!
     
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  2. Doc

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    If and a big if, Nasri interested it can only be to work for Bielsa. I have doubts and also am I really interested in him? Yes a fantastic International player but wow some baggage with him.

    Arsenal made him a superstar but he was a sulker and fell out with Wenger. He tried to engineer a move to City because they offered him a massive wage increase. A deal was refused by Wenger so he went in strike and then got his move later. He had success at City because hes a fantastic talent, but fell out with the manager because he thought he was a star player who should be picked weekly, even though everyone at City is a star.... then the ban yada yada yada. Top talent but hard work unless hes changed
     
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  3. ristac

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    Morning all

    Nasri would excite me but can’t see it coming off, I can’t see Douglas starting myself, looking at Roofe, Hernandez and Berardi, the two that made an U23 game started, the other was on the bench.

    Harrison could be decent news, coming back from injury does Pablo have 90 minutes in him twice over around 60 hours?
     
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  4. Doc

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    Listened to the Phil Hay podcast last night and I took from that we were struggling because Bielsa likes to reward and be loyal to his team, but problems with BPF, Samu Saiz and at left back and up front. Blackman now deserves a chance and the Samu thing rumbles on because he can turn a match like he did on Saturday but that can be the only thing he does as the rest was wasted wrong decisions and no end product. Hay thinks Brown was brought in to replace Samu but not fit yet. Can baker have a go, can Klich do it with Forshaw being Klich? Interesting podcast but its now time for some fringe players to step up - Blackman, Baker, Harrison, Pearce, Roberts....
     
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  5. Doc

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    This is worth thinking about. This shows who are the richest owners in the FL and I'm guessing that Boro and Steve Gibson down in 21st place means hes wasted a lot already on his club and hoping Pulis can do it this season. Derby still up there but also wasted shed loads and will the owner carry on? Ipswich owner worth twice as much as Radz but wants his club to be self financed as a good business should be. Norwich are now nowhere as their big gamble paid off twice but now sunk way out of contention

    1. Aston Villa - Dr Tony Xia, Nassef Sawiris, Wesley Edens - £8,100,000,000
    2. Barnsley - International Investment Consortium (Headed by Chien Lee) - £6,900,000,000
    3. Stoke - Coates family - £3,100,000,000
    4. West Brom - Guochuan Lai - £2,800,000,000
    5. Bristol City - Steve Lansdown - £1,720,000,000
    6. Preston - Trevor Hemmings - £1,000,000,000
    7. Ipswich - Marcus Evans - £800,000,000
    8. Portsmouth - Michael Eisner - £761,363,968
    9. Reading - Dai Yongge and Dai Xiu Li - £700,000,000 * only represents wealth of Dai Xiu Li
    10. Sheffield Wednesday - Dejphon Chansiri - £520,000,000
    11. Derby - Mel Morris - £500,000,000
    12. Nottingham Forest - Evangelos Marinakis - £470,000,000
    13. Leeds United - Andrea Radrizzani - £450,000,000
    14. Birmingham - Paul Suen (Trillion Trophy Asia) - £450,000,000
    15. Bristol Rovers - Dwane Sports (Al-Qadi family) - £400,000,000
    16. QPR - Tony Fernandes, Lakshmi Mittal - £345,000,000
    17. Scunthorpe United - Peter Swann (family) - £340,000,000
    18. Sheffield United - Kevin McCabe and Prince Abdullah bin Mosaad bin Abdulaziz Al Saud - £260,000,000
    19. Hull - Assem Allam - £250,000,000
    20. Wigan - Dave Whelan - £250,000,000
    21. Middlesbrough - Steve Gibson - £195,000,000
     
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  6. 1964white

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    Good morning Matt & everyone

    Good to hear Douglas is back this week

    The Nasri speculation is all a puff of wind I suspect
     
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    So five of the bottom eight clubs on the list who are the least wealthiest owners have their teams in the top nine of the championship
     
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  8. milkyboy

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    Listened to most of that podcast doc... did they mention bpf v Blackman? Must have missed it.
     
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    Morning all
     
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    you forgot the best Doc Clarke
     
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    No mate I threw that in because it needs looking at
     
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    These lists are all subjective because they dont do “ready money waiting in the bank”, they do net worth of all assets.
     
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    Good Morning to Matt and co from a windy if sunny Bardsey
    Do I want Nasri ….. Why because he will have a disruptive influence on the team
    and at 31 his days are over
    We seem to be monitoring the young right back from LutonJustin .He will appeal as 19
    Ollie Burke I think we could get him on the cheap as he can't get a place on the bench at WBA if we can get him focused he would be a real threat£3m v may get him
     
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    I think the point about bielsa showing loyalty to certain players is true but I’m not sure it’s loyalty in the traditional sense... I think he has a firm belief in how he is going to play and which players will deliver it, so he sticks with them because he thinks they’re the best option. I’ve seen too little of Blackman to say if he’s a better keeper than BPF or not. He made a few mistakes in the few games he had but all keepers make mistakes.

    Thing is, bielsa likes to play from the keeper, it’s a huge part of his style of play. Whatever people think, rightly or wrongly of his shot stopping and command of his area etc, BPF is very comfortable pinging the ball about.... I don’t know whether Blackman can do that to the same level ( I presume bielsa wouldn’t have sanctioned his loan if he couldn’t do it, but it’s a strength of bpfs game that is crucial to bielsa and often overlooked by fans imo)
     
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  15. Doc

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    Milky Blackman is commanding when coming for the ball, being a big lad. Hes also very good with the ball at his feet. Spent all last season as Shef Utd Number 1 so much more experienced than BPF. My own view is Blackman is better but am I going to be upset if BPF is still playing, NO as Bielsa might be a bit more experienced than me.. its all about opinions :emoticon-0120-doh::emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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    Well he’s definitely tall!

    He started last season as no 1 at the blunts and then was dropped after a run of clangers, Doc. He did then come back in later in the season and did very well apparently. But yep, bit more experienced, bit older than bpf. Had a year in league 2 where he apparently did well and 30 games in the champ.

    I genuinely have no idea if he’s better than bpf... but bielsa doesn’t seem to think so... or at least doesn’t think bpf deserves to be dropped, yet.
     
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    Seems we have a good bunch of keepers coming through the ranks Milky. We have one kid out on loan at Tadcaster Albion, the kid Huffer in the U23s who plays second fiddle to the Polish kid Kamel Myazic who will be a full Polish International before too long. In fact if things had panned out for Christianson Myazic would have been number 2 this season behind Felix. BPF was being sent out on loan but issues with Felix and Co meant he got a chance and moved up the ladder. Reckon the end of this season will see a huge sort out of players especially if we are promoted
     
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    Doc, we certainly have a few young keepers.

    Don’t follow the logic re miazek. Looks to me he was signed so they had another keeper, SO bpf could be freed to go out on loan to get experience. If you had bigger plans for miazek, you’d keep bpf here as u23/emergency choice and send miazek out to get experience.

    He might be great, never seen him play, but he’s older than bpf and not in first team picture.
     
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  19. Doc

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    Pablo starts tomoz Pontus doesnt but might make the bench
     
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    This is exactly what some of us were talking about after Blackburn. Mowbray had got his team to close us down fast when we started playing oit out from the back and we were not good enough doing it so put pressure on defence and BPF. We also had no end product

     
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