The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Mon 18th May)

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  1. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member
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    perfect1.jpg Good Morning, It;s Monday 18th May, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road.

    EFL Statement delights Leeds fans

    The EFL released a statement on Friday, the EFL said it will use an unweighted points per game model to calculate final standings for any division which cannot complete the season.

    The statement read: "In the event of a curtailment of the season, the EFL board outlined how this could be addressed through a framework that includes maintaining the principle of promotion and relegation, league tables to be determined via unweighted points per game (PPG) and play-offs to remain in every division to determine the final promotion place."

    Leeds would finish Champions with an average of 1.92 points per game with West Brom just behind them on 1.89.

    The play offs contenders would be Fulham (1.73), Brentford (1.62), Nottingham Forest (1.62) and Preston North End (1.51) points.

    The EFL Statement was released following all 24 clubs from League Two voting unanimously for the season to end, three clubs to be promoted automatically, play-offs to take place normally but no relegation into the National League.

    Stevenage sit at the foot of the Football league with 22 points, but with a game in hand over Macclesfield on 25 points.

    FA Chairman Greg Clarke told the Premier League last week that they would block any moves to declare seasons null and void. Whilst its sad news for Graham Westley's side, the FA will surely need to follow through on their promise throughout all 91 League Clubs.

    Stevenage could of course use the excuse that as Bury were expelled from the Football League, they should be allowed to stay to balance the numbers, but would this give Premier League teams at the foot of the Premier League ammunition?

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    Championship teams set to vote

    Championship and League One Clubs are set to vote this week on whether to resume the 2019/20 season.

    Due to the massive additional costs of testing players, it’s likely that only the Championship will restart. This will see Coventry and Rotherham return to the second tier with Oxford Utd, Portsmouth, Fleetwood Town and Peterborough contest the play offs. This will be harsh on Sunderland and Wycombe Wanderers who miss out on the plays on goal difference.

    There is a suggestion that parachute payments to relegated clubs could be extended to those going down into League One, League Two and the National League to soften the blow of going down.

    Training must resume in the next seven days if there is any chance that FA Chairman Greg Clarke's guidelines that the season must be conclude by 30th June are met. This date coincides with out of contract players being released from their contractual obligations.

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    Is it too soon?

    Yesterday we witnessed first hand what would happen if football is bought back too soon. Two unidentified players from the Hannover v Dresden fixture tested positive to the coronavirus.

    Although the duo didn't have any symptoms, the entire team including coaching and support staff face quarantine for 14 days.

    How could this affect the he Premiership / Championship?

    Wayne Rooney certainly thinks it is! The Derby County and former Manchester United forward told the Sunday Times:

    "I'm desperate to train and play again, but it feels like football in England is being pushed to return too soon. "Our government says people can return to work, but only with social distancing in the workplace and that does not work in football. "So I don't get it: until the government gives the green light to have physical contact, we can't train or prepare properly."

    "I understand where Troy Deeney, Danny Rose and Raheem Sterling are coming from.

    "The concern is not so much for ourselves, like whether you might pick up an injury, but more about bringing coronavirus home and infecting those around us. People's lives are at risk."

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  2. ristac

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    Morning all...

    I’ve gone from wanting the season to be finished behind closed doors to now calling for it to be finished on ppg and award us promotion. Although I feel we’d be okay finishing the season I’d hate for us to lose a few games and screw it up

    If it’s down to a vote with guaranteed promotion and relegation then I’d imagine top 6 would vote end it now and anyone outside the bottom three with very little chance of top 6 would also vote to end it.

    If you need 14 votes, then it’s going to be close, Reading and Wednesday are on 48 it depends if they believe they can get into the playoffs 7th to 13th will all believe they can do it
     
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  3. Eireleeds1

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    Morning all. Little interest in seeing games played with no fans. Watched bits of the German stuff at weekend and the golf last night. Dire to watch without fans and atmosphere. I know opinions will be divided but hopefully this isn't football or sport in the long term. Dread the thoughts of an empty Elland Road given we had one of the best atmospheres in English football if not the very best <doh>
     
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    Good Morning to Matt and his lock downers
    I personally think that we should cancel the league and make Leeds champs .It would become a farce if we were to continue I think it would encourage clubs to cheat Norwich and Brighton are already moaning
    Did anyone see Koch play on SatI would be interested in whaT you thought
    I see thatJohn Morgan a great writer for the YEP has died yesterday .He was a very funny man and had a great sense of humour.I met him recently in Wetherby but you could see that he was suffering from some form of dementia my thoughts goes out to his wife and family
     
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    Good morning one and all. We can only really wait and see what happens this week, but at least it should become clearer on how, when or if we'll finish the season. Personally I'd love to win the title or runners up spot by playing on the pitch. But then I'd be worried we'd mess it up again. So although it would be great to go up by the PPG system, it would feel a bit of a hollow victory. No doubt oppo fans would bring it up. <ok>
     
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    As I've said previously I don't mind how we go up as we are the best team in the championship by a distance. We were on a terrific run of form & unfortunately denied our opportunity to become worthy champions. No way were the wheels going to fall off this time!
     
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    I agree 64 with your comments, but I'm worried that because of this long break, it has broken that momentum up. :(
     
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    The may be the only time in our history that the EFL/FA/UEFA/FIFA have actually sided with Leeds about anything.

    After years of being mistreated, let us go up as Champions without kicking another ball
     
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    Not often I think Wayne Rooney has a valid point but he is right. How can you play with social distancing rules in place. Speaking only about Leeds, it gives our opponents some help if it affects our high pressing game.
     
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    My fear too, we are top of the form league, we’re top of the table. Will the players be as fit as they should be, fitness matters to us Immensely due to the style of play.
     
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    I see the SPL have agreed to finish today giving Celtic their ninth tile in a row. Isn't it about time they gave up with the Scottish league? They could run parallel to the conference north/south or something.
     
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  12. TC (Lovely Geezer)

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    Can't see how this season can possibly finish by end of July - no chance whatsoever.
    Sure is going to be lots of fun and games coming up after they finally admit project restart was just a pipe dream.
    Do you relegate and promote teams on what might have been?
    I don't think they can tbh!!
     
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    Sorry to read of John Morgans death. His column was always good for a laugh. RIP John.
     
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    EFL has already confirmed that is what will happen if the season is curtailed.
     
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    We’re going up one way or another, you’ll have to get used to life in the championship without us. You’ll still have QPR keeping you company
     
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    Enjoyed this. Highlight was seeing the sheer joy on Speedo's face after we scored. That's the way I want to remember him.

     
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    I reckon Bielsa will have his players as fit as a butchers dog if & when we resume Shaks
     
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  18. TC (Lovely Geezer)

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    EFL can confirm what they like, EPL will have the final say!!
     
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    I've no doubt that he will. <ok>
     
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  20. Whitejock

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    Actually, you're quite wrong. If you check your facts, you'll find that the FA have control of promotion & relegation. They have made this perfectly clear in a number of public statements.
     
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