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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Friday 9th February)

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  1. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member
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    Good Morning. It's Friday 9th February, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road

    Sinisterra set to complete £20m deal

    Luis Sinisterra will make his Bournemouth move permanent later today in a deal worth £20m

    The finer details are a little sketchy, depending on which source you believe. Transfer Guru Fabrizio Romano claims the South Coast outfit have activated a clause in Sinisterra's contract, whilst most other articles closer to home indicate it was a mutual decision between both clubs.

    It has become customary for Leeds to sell their players for a loss, but this deal may actually make sense. His previous club Feyenoord had a hefty sell on clause, but only if Leeds made a profit on the deal.

    Leeds shelled out £21m for him 18 months ago, and are selling him for £20m.
    Nevertheless, the Dutch giants are claiming on their website they will earn €470,000 from the deal.

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    Sin bins could be introduced in the beautiful game

    Sin bins could be introduced in professional football, with players banished to the sidelines for ten minutes, for dissent or cynical fouls.

    The International Football Association Board are due to publish details later today, with the new ruling expected to include plans to introduce blue cards! Two blue cards would result in a player's dismissal for the rest of the match, as would a blue and a yellow card (lets hope nobody is colour blind).

    There have already been trials at amateur and youth level, and now IFAB are keen to try it out at a higher level.

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    Leeds and Southampton will be too strong for Ipswich


    Former player, now pundit Sam Parkin believes there is a 'sense of inevitability' that Leeds and Southampton will prove too strong for Ipswich Town, in the battle for second place in the Championship.

    With one win in eight, the wheels have well and truly come off at Portman Road for Kieran McKenna's side, yet have only lost four times all season, the joint best in the division.

    They face a tricky tie against West Brom at the weekend, which would have a massive effect on their moral. If they are victorious against the Baggies Saturday lunchtime, they will regain second spot, and still have a game in hand over Leeds, but Parkin is resigned that Southampton and Leeds will fight it out for second place come May!

    I just think a lot of it is down to Kieran McKenna now and his man-management and motivational skills.

    “Can he turn them around now to go on another run when Southampton and Leeds are there now? It’s not a question of whether they will be able to maintain their form, they are going to have to pick up an incredible number of points to keep those two at bay.

    “I am enthused to see how they respond in a really difficult game against West Brom. It is important not to forget, this has been a hellish run for Ipswich. “We knew going into this period that this was a horrendous run of games – the East Anglia derby, Leeds, Leicester – they have played them all in the last month.

    “If they can get a maximum return in this game, it’s not over for them but it does feel like a sense of inevitability that the form of Leeds and Southampton is going to be too much.”

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  2. Eireleeds1

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    Morning all. Nice to get rid of Sinisterra and cover our costs. You'd hope we can do similar with the balance of the rats but in truth probably only hope of recouping decent cash for any of them is if a PL team was interested like Everton with Harisson. That wouldn't seem likely though as most of them simply aren't good enough for that standard
     
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  3. DirtyLeeds

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    Morning all Leeds fans.

    Said all along that Ipswich could not keep up that blistering pace forever. I'd say the same thing about Southampton, but they've already had one bad run earlier in the season, will they have another? And we're not immune either, unbeaten records always come to an end and with Leeds being Leeds that will probably happen when we least expect it. On paper we look to have a fairly nice run of games from now on. Apart from Leicester of course but it is at Elland Road and we beat them at their place so who knows. Long way to go still, but starting to get the feeling now that it could all come down to the last game of the season - home to Southampton.

    That's me jinxed it then, if it all goes tits up you can blame me!

    PS - Sinisterra can **** off. Heard AC Milan were sniffing around too, but I'd rather just get rid now while we can.
     
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  4. Jammy 07

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    Morning all.

    The sin bin idea needs to happen as there’s just no deterrent at the moment to stop all the cynical fouls.

    Should make it 15mins though to reflect the time the ball is actually in play.
     
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  5. DirtyLeeds

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    I think it's definitely worth a trial. Would've preferred it to be trialed in a less prestigious contest first.

    Might get a bit confusing though as it appears players could be sent off for;

    A straight red
    Two yellows
    Two blues
    A yellow followed by a blue, or vice versa.

    So the blue is effectively a yellow if you've already had a card on any colour. A blue followed by a yellow would be worse than a yellow followed by a blue - both end up with a sending off but the first example also sees the player missing 10 minutes prior to that.

    Is there still a one match ban for two blues? What about a yellow and a blue?

    I don't see it lasting to be honest.
     
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    There would be no point using the blue card for a second cautionary offence.

    Also to avoid confusion maybe instead of blue maybe make the card yellow and blue stripes.

    Subsequent bans to remain at three matches for straight reds and one match for a combination of other cards.
     
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  7. ellandback

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    Suppose a blue card could be 10 mins sin bate, and a yellow 20 minutes.
     
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    It seems that blue is basically a yellow but with sin bin added in. Be interesting to see the full list of what constitutes a blue card offence. Also would accumulation of blue cards throughout the season lead to different sanctions to accumulation of yellows currently? I'm sure the IFAB have thought this through!
     
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  9. Brizzlewhite

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    I like the sinbin idea - it works in rugby. It should also be used for abuse of the ref, disputing decisions and so on.
     
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    Leeds United can confirm Luis Sinisterra has joined AFC Bournemouth in a permanent deal, for an undisclosed fee.
     
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  11. OLOF

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    I'd be forever in the sin bin, all referees are incompetent cheating ****s when it come to Leeds United
     
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  12. Wakey

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    Great news one less rat to fead.
     
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  13. blonogasoven

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    Afternoon all. I've been an advocate of using sin bins for years.
    For me the most important factor is that it has an immediate impact. If a player gets a yellow it makes very little difference to that particular game. It may mean that he misses a future game which might actually penalise the club he offended against.
    For example, we are playing a team and one of their defenders trips our attacker who is counter attacking. He'll get a yellow and we'll get a free kick in the middle of the pitch.
    That yellow could mean that he is suspended for a match against Southampton, for example. We are doubly penalised. If he's given a sin bin it affects the current game.
    I also think it would cause players to think twice about cynical fouls.
    I'd actually go further, like rugby, and every yellow is a sin bin. The referee sends the player to the sin bin and a fourth official reviews the incident. He can make the decision on whether the offence actually warranted a sin bin (and send the player back on) or that it deserved more punishment.
    This has the potential to keep the game flowing, takes pressure off the referee and, hopefully, gets rid of some of the poor decisions.
     
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  14. Jammy 07

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    Makes me laugh when at the games and fans are going ballistic at every decision that doesn't go our way and then when you watch back later most are given correctly.

    But hey I'm as bad as anybody so just sayin <ok>
     
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    Which one of you lazy barstewards is doing the Weekend Debate this week ?
     
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  16. Leedsoflondon

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    Think it’s a **** idea, what with this and VAR are we paying to watch the players play football or put referees centre of attention? It will ruin games just like VAR had, teams will just sit in a low block for 10 minutes. It won’t be used consistently by refs as it will be a subjective decision and it will cause muscle injuries to players. Wish they would leave the game alone like it used to be, that’s why I’m loving our games in the championship. They seem to forget that the premier league became so successful because of the football being great to watch.
     
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  17. ellandback

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    You'd have more cards than Clintons
     
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  18. Aski

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    it's done ;)

    and Ive now edited it so that it is more than just a one word post :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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  19. esteponawhite

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    Excellent post,
    Just to add, so if a keeper gets a bluey you have to sub on a reserve keeper, then what sub him off again?
    3 cards in ten minutes is not unheard of, then what 11vs 8 or you could have 10vs 9 depending on which team got the cards.
    It would lead to even more timewasting etc.
    And the aftermath where pundits fans etc will argue was a yellow not a blue etc etc.
    A perfect example of a stupid idea, football is the most watched sport in the world leave it alone, and scrap VAR aswell.
     
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  20. OLOF

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    The officials today are ****ing useless who consistently get it wrong, we have the ****s in comfy studios watching the games from every angle on monitors then instruct the ref on the pitch to go look at his monitor pitchside to make a decision because they can't make their minds up, get rid of var, stop ****ing about with the rules, get rid of incompetent and DEI hire referees and get back to good old refereeing where mistakes levelled up over the course of the season.
     
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