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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 16th October)

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  1. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member
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    Good Morning. It's Friday 16th October, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road.

    Unless anything dramatic changes - no further transfers

    Phil Hay has been speaking ahead of the domestic transfer window which will close at 5pm today. The former Chief football writer for the YEP has told Leeds fans that unless something dramatic changes, no to expect any more transfer activity!!!

    "Much of the speculation about Cantwell is being driven by his agent". " The club are aware that they need another midfielder (which is why they lined up Michael Cuisance) but with the domestic window into its final day, a further addition is not expected".

    "There are a couple of reasons for this. First, meeting Marcelo Bielsa’s requirements is difficult as only deals with EFL clubs can be done" (even if Sibley and Cantwell are decent matches). " Second, Leeds have already committed £100 million to this window and they were never going to splash out heavily unless they were 100 per cent sold on a particular target". "As much as I see the scope for a No 8 or a No 10, maybe a bit of financial prudence makes sense".

    So, should we see more signings in January?

    "Leeds are more and more reluctant to do business in January, because of the challenge of finding players who are ready to go immediately under Bielsa".

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    Hay addresses Leeds fans who have forked out hundreds of pounds on season ticket renewals

    With no end in sight as to when fans will be allowed to attend matches again, Phil Hay has been swamped by Leeds supporters asking the Leeds Utd journalist what is happening with their money they have invested in season tickets?

    "This is a subject Leeds and other Premier League clubs are going to have to address at some stage soon. The reason for the delay in providing clarity is that the division was hoping to be able to have its stadiums at least 25 per cent full by the end of this month". "You may remember the statement Leeds published on their website in September preparing for a ballot-style system to allocate seats. The worsening of the pandemic has wrecked those plans and nobody can say if or when crowds will return to games".

    "Most Premier League sides are continuing to hope that it will happen this season — but between them, they are sitting on millions of pounds of season ticket cash and, because of TV broadcasting rights, they are not even able to offer free streams as compensation". "Put simply, they cannot just bank the money without offering something in return. This will reach the point of reckoning before long".

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    Imps win the race to sign Gotts on loan


    Lincoln City have won the race to sign Leeds Academy player of last season Robbie Gotts. The highly rated midfielder needs first team football, and Imps Manager Michael Appleton will provide that. Both clubs will speak again in January to access the situation.

    It was thought that Gotts would stay in Yorkshire, but Hull withdrew their interest having recently signed Regan Slater from Sheffield Utd.

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    Chris Powell opens up about Crysencio Summerville

    Former Charlton and Huddersfield Manager Chris Powell has opened up to the Yorkshire Evening Post about Leeds exciting new winger Crysencio Summerville. The experienced ex-left back enjoyed a 23 year playing career including 663 appearances, and five for England.

    ADO Den Haag Manager Alan Pardew bought Powell onboard last December (along with Paul Butler) in a bid to save the Dutch side from relegation.

    It was there that Powell and Summerville developed a close working relationship.


    “I struck up a really good rapport with him,” “You could see the raw talent he had. “He’s only tiny, he’s like five foot nothing but he’s got wonderful balance.

    “One v one is his strength, against players. He’s quite a free spirit out on the wing, in a good way. He’ll excite you, he’s a bag of tricks, there’s some talent there, it’s just how it’s harnessed and what the coaches demand from him. “He’s played for the Under-18s and Under-19s for Holland so he’s well thought of in Dutch football.”

    The individual skill that made him an exciting player to watch, someone who liked to go past defenders, also made him one of ADO Den Haag prime sources of creativity. The 18-year-old boy was a go-to man.

    “It was a hard, difficult situation he was in because the team was struggling and they were relying on him to be the one that unlocked teams,” “You could see he could do it but the team was going through a very tough spell.

    “He played games, he will have learned a lot from the experience.” Losing did not come easily to the youngster, however. “He cared,” “That was one good trait I felt he had. He was someone who really cared about the game.

    “You could really see that when we didn’t win, which was often. He wanted us to be better. “I suppose that impetuous side of being a young player, you have to learn all these things off the pitch, in the dressing room, they come over time.”

    “I would think they’ll give him time to assimilate,” “His English is okay, not great, it’s okay, but his talent isn’t in doubt. “I’m sure if he’s okay in regards to communication and understands what’s wanted and they understand how he is, he’ll be fine. When you go to a new club you have to find your peer group, who you settle with and who helps you. That will be important for Cry because he’s 18, he’s still a young man. Going to the professional ranks has happened quite early for him.

    “He will have to learn how Leeds want him to play, in the 23s, and take it on board. It’s an exciting signing but whether he’ll be involved in the first team I’m not so sure yet. “Marcelo does put some young players in, it’s a small squad so over the course of the season we might see him in the 18. I hope going to Leeds United helps him to keep developing.”

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  2. lufctommo

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    Good morning.

    I’m not overly disappointed if there’s no more transfers. Anything else would’ve been a bonus but I’m always worried we’ll get ripped off buying from English clubs. We might be better off saving the money for January when we’ll have a better idea which positions might need more cover.

    The season ticket thing doesn’t really affect me. It was spent money anyway and i’m lucky that my income hasn’t changed over the last few months. They’ll sort it out eventually but I can see how someone who just spent hundreds not realising they were going to lose their job might feel pissed off by it.

    Lincoln will be a good experience for Robbie. Probably the best atmosphere at a game not involving Leeds that i’ve been to.
     
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    Morning Tommo

    So, no more signings, probably not until next Summer...

    Do you believe we will regret not signing Cuisance ?
     
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    Wakey wakey you b'stards.......
     
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    As I posted yesterday I'll be very surprised if we make anymore signings.

    Us season-ticket holders have taken a big hit especially as it's our first season back in the PL, I honestly can't envisage our fans seeing more than a couple games if any this season
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    unfortunately we have to make these sacrifices for the safety of our Leeds family & the world in general. Life is certainly very different without three of my outdoor activities, thank god I still have my music
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  6. wakeybreakyheart

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    Thought that was aimed at me at first glorious and blessed leader.
     
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    Good morning everyone my take on the transfer in january. What a time to do a deal as clubs struggle to keep afloat without paying fans. Season ticket holders may want a refund or carry over till next season. Either way it's a loser for clubs. So January must be the time to do cut price deals as clubs get desperate for cash flow. How many times did we sell cheap only for the fees to disappear overseas. Let's do unto others as they have unto us........ Oh and feck em all.
     
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  8. lufctommo

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    Making signings in January usually involves you getting ripped off anyway but if we’re desperately short in a position and in danger of going down at least the cash is there. As Wakey says, who knows where clubs will be financially by then.

    I was gutted we didn’t sign Cuisance at the time, but then I was gutted when we didn’t sign Nicky Maynard a few years ago :emoticon-0102-bigsm We’ll know more in 12-24 months.
     
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    Agreed
     
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    Some of us have to work:emoticon-0136-giggl
     
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    Morning all
     
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    Morning all from sunny Spain.
     
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    Morning all:emoticon-0148-yes:

    Cuisance the one that got away is the only downside of our transfer window. I do however agree with the reasons for it and if Rob Price thinks there is a potential problem then at that price best to walk away.

    think we have done great business and chuckled when Orta mentioned Rodrigo to Bielsa he was gobsmacked and asked Orta if it was possible and he went and got him. The other striking thing was Bielsa had been watching Rafinha for over a year independently of Orta who had been doing his own research and analysis on him. Orta then said to Bielsa have you heard of Rafinha.... so it turns out both had been looking at him and exactly why we went in and got him. The other nice thing about these new players is that Orta will not take the blame from fans if it goes wrong because Bielsa has the final say :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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    Morning.<ok>
     
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    Good Morning to Matt Doc and co from a chilly sunny Bardsey
    Well Man U are having their problems and Maguire is having a nightmare LiEC must be Laughing all the way to the bank he looks out of sorts the kind we normally buy
     
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    Good Morning all.
    Seems the longest international break ever :(
     
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  19. lufctommo

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    Benrahma has reportedly failed a medical. Possibly just a tactic to get the price tag down?
     
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    Peeing myself at this one as the kid has a massive ego and I dont feel sorry for him at all. Sure WHU will still buy him but at a reduced price

    Douglas gone and now a Blackburn player and a great letter to him from Orta
     
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