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the Harness thread

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by Islanderpei, Sep 12, 2011.

  1. Islanderpei

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    Rockin with Dewey fetched the highest sale price on the second day of the 2011 Canadian yearling sale at Flamboro Downs.
    Sold as hip 166 Rockin with Dewey is from the first crop of trotting superstar Deweycheataumnhowe and from the family standouts Pure Ivory and two year old sensation The Game Plan. Ben Bailergone paid $100,000 for the colt.

    Its the time of year when the big purse races start coming around, and this Saturday at Mohawk raceway we have 3 big purse races
    Peacfull Way final trot for 2yr old fillies purse $447,000
    William Wellwood trot final 2yr old open $469,000
    Canadian Trotting Classic 3yr old open final $1,000,000
    And of course early next month is the Little Brown Jug. The biggest race on the harness race calender in North America
     
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    Way to go Islander, know where I can track down some form for that meeting? Vids would be nice if possible. I came across the 3yo trotter Waiting On A Woman, an amazing animal. His track record was a real eye opener.
     
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    Not much around really,nothing like thoroughbred racing, ustrotting.com and standardbredcanada.ca are some you may want to try also harnesslink.com and harnesracing.com
     
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    We don't have the prize money that North America does Ron, but there are no end of $500,000 races each year. The Grand Daddy of the circuit is the Inter Dominion. We are lucky at the moment to have one of the finest pacers in the history of the sport, going around at the moment, Blacks A Fake. He won the 06, 07, 08 Finals, was beaten a long neck in 09, won again in 10, and finished third this year. To date he won $4,500,000 in stakes. He's has 102 starts and won 72, second 17, third 6.

    Prize money comes from their share of the tote turn over.All tracks get a slice of the pie. Then there are sponsorships as well.
     
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    attendance is on par with the thoroughbreds at big meets.At charlottetown for the Gold Cup and saucer there was over 10,000.Most of the money comes in from the tote, and sponsors,.I know that for every dollar the casino takes in 10% goes to the harness associationof PEI to help fund harness racing.
    On PEI Charlttetown has 2 race cards a week and Summerside 1 card, for 9 months of the year.Olde Home Week which culminates with the gold cup and saucer is a 10 day affair with cards in the afternoon and evening every day,normally 22 to 25 races a day, Horses are shipped in from all over Canada and the Eastern US
     
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    your tracks a Mile cyc,the larger centers have mile tracks here, but on PEI we only have 1/2 mile so they go round twice,
     
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    Most of our major track are less than a thousand yards Islander. But we did have a local track in Brisbane, that closed down a couple of years ago, that was only 545m. It was an amazing place. It was a sad day when they closed it down
     
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    cyc found a site for you littlebrownjug.com
     
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    There must be some really fast tracks over there Isl. I just noticed that in the lead up to Super Night 23, a couple 2 year old fillies went 1:55 to qualify for the final on the 17th. Some colts went 1:53 and 52. Looks like a huge night.
     
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    Just for interest guys Berlin has 3 racetracks - Hoppegarten (turf flat racing), Mariendorf and Karlshorst (both trotting venues). Never been to a trotting meet, but I did once go to Karlshorst to see some camel racing. Marvellous spectacle but due to inane German gambling laws we weren't allowed to bet on the camel races. So we didn't stay very long :-(
     
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    Just about to turn in for the night. I'd recommend a night at a harness meeting Oddy. Some won't like it, but I find it pretty spectacular, especially under lights.
     
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    Seems like UK are out of line with the way racing is funded.
     
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  16. Islanderpei

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    I have to agree Ron,but i think the racing public in the UK would not want just Tote/Paramutual betting,
     
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    Don't think that would go down well at all. After all it would prevent people coming on horse racing threads and boasting "Horse xyz is now into 3/1 but I got on at 12s this morning" before it finished 7th tailed off <laugh>
     
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    Good one oddy
     
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    Tote/Paramutual betting is simply a centralised betting industry. With more imagination those industries could also introduce exchanges and variable odds. They would still control how the profits were distributed.

    It would effectively be the equivalent of re-nationalising the Tote and taking bookmakers and exchanges with it.

    There you go.
    Solved.
     
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    Glad to see this getting off the ground. Thanks for adding some variety.
     
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