Says it all really!! Where is the 'never say die' attitude? Poor team selection, poor tactics and poor motivation. Still i guess this is all down to Roy Keane (even though 8 of the starting eleven where Jewell signings) How many goals have we conceded under Jewell, far too many. I would say that under Jewell our goals conceded to games played ratio must be one of the worst in Towns history. How much longer until we get a decent defence? I feel for those of you that spend your hard earnt money on a bunch of overpaid clueless ****ers. I guess it would be easier if you could see improvement but.... 2 weeks to sort it out Jewell, get the defence/formation sorted, bring pace into the team and finally try to instill that never say die attitude instead of the defeatist attitude!!
Interesting stat to note that under Jewell we have lost more games and conceded more goals than we did under Keane! Never mind though because we have to look at the bigger picture and give this team time to gel and get to know one another! Who knows by the middle of next season they might have gelled by then.
This is just ridiculous, yes you have to take in the bigger picture. The situation when Keane took over to when Jewell took over were completely different, we had a decent team who'd finished 9th the previous season and subsequently got over £10 million spent on it, when Jewell took over we had a rubbish team with loads of players out of contract near the relegation zone. We are perhaps not doing aswell as we should be doing in turns of getting turned over quite so easily and conceding so many goals but the rest of it considering what our club has been through over the past few years IMO is entirely expected!!! IMO Jewell deserves more patience especially after the unjustified patience his predecessor got.
What a surprise to see you active on the boards again Spanish. Do you really support Ipswich Town or do you just frequent various forums because of your negativity disorder that means you spend your whole life moaning. Do you have the ability to write anything positive, I think you may need to get some anti- depressants prescribed because I really fear for your life. Don't do it Spanish, suicide is not the answer. There are good things in this world if you look hard enough.
Its not that its just the elequant and intelligent comebacks that really get me, I just have no comeback. Aren't these boards meant to talk about football rather than insulting people or goading people into responses?? I really do give up sometimes, Is there another football forum site where you can have intelligent conversation even if you disagree with each other or are there alot of moronic football fans out there??
Please point out all these insults in this thread and on the other thread, i think the insults have been coming from YOU!! Saying fans are not intelligent, bipolar, idiotic etc!! People in glass houses etc.....
So how long would you have given Keano? Jewell has been here nearly 50% of the time Royston got. Roy, 20.5 months; Jewell now nearly 10. I do agree with the point you're making about where we are compared to where we were. Under Keano we went backwards and were left with a shambles of a squad. Surely the worst squad builder and transfer market merchant we've had (though I hear wor Jackie Milburn was no great shakes). With PJ we are at least in a much better theoretical position and Iâm confident that will improve once the transfer window opens. Having said that, the spineless and incompetent performances, the ease weâre sliced open by ordinary teams, the shocking loss percentage are all worse than Keane or Magilton. Though I do also agree that he deserves more time, though I worry that weâll only regret it. After all, if weâre reduced to sacking PJ in March if weâre at the bottom and losing 8-0 at home to Bristol City weâll all be on here saying âwhy didnât he go after those joke performances against Millwall and Doncaster?â Hindsight and all that. By the way, youâre not Nuggets in disguise are you, attempting to write under a different style???
ptc you are not adverse from throwing around the insults but its all water off a ducks back. One thing we can all agree on is that we love our football club and most of us are just horrified at the prospect of another slow train crash. We've seen it all before and nothing has been learnt from previous managers mistakes. How long is long enough? When we're relegated or just fighting to stay in this division? Wake up and take the rose tinted glasses off for a minute and just reflect on the fact that we have suffered more humbling defeats over the last 10 months than we have in the last 3 years!
Your right Spanish, but its nothing compared to the level that you adhere to but that is what i meant by goaded, you and JWM goad people alot of the time into responding just by the way you call people clowns or when we have a bad result, saying I told you so!! JJ IMO opinon Keane should never have been appointed, I said that from the off and I think it was clear from really early on that it just was not going to work!! No not nuggets, but just trying to get my point accross but clearly it hasn't worked very well!!!lol
" What a surprise to see you active on the boards again Spanish. Do you really support Ipswich Town or do you just frequent various forums because of your negativity disorder that means you spend your whole life moaning. Do you have the ability to write anything positive, I think you may need to get some anti- depressants prescribed because I really fear for your life. Don't do it Spanish, suicide is not the answer. There are good things in this world if you look hard enough. " Fantastic post !!! Spanish pops up after EVERY single defeat and has sexual fantasies about Keane ! All we agree on is the job Royle did haha Enjoy him being on here wouldn't be the same without Rrrrrrrrr Spanish !
As much as we can have a great debate over which manager has failed/ proven a bigger question is why our players dont seem capable of doing the basics or giving effort or commitment. Im not papering over the cracks with the fact I was anti Keane and am not against Jewell. I admit we have serious issues we have to sort out but I think currently they run deeper than who is in charge
I'm with you on that one. All I read is posts about how Jewell is worse than some other manager in our history and that us losing to a bottom of the league side is unacceptable. No one actually takes the time to analyse where we're going wrong on the pitch and discuss it. I'm no Alf Ramsey but I can see some issues are blindingly obvious and have been for weeks, even when we were winning. And these were issues we could put right with the personnel we have but Jewell failed to address them. Issues such as Bullard in the holding midfield role, no width, playing long to two strikers who are under 5 foot 6, playing an attackingly incompetent player in the attacking midfielder role (Leadbitter). Just play a 442 with some width and have the balls to drop Bullard and anyone else who are under performing. The team should come first and players second, yet you always get the impression whether its tactics or in the transfer market that Jewell looks at the players first and team second. If I were manager I would see what works in this league, identify what attricbutes players need and only bring them in if they have those attributes. At the moment we have too many players who have skills but are lacking in areas which are needed, the most obvious example being the lack of pace in the team.
not sure i agree, as has been mentioned elsewhere on this board, after the exodus of the summer we needed creativity, attackers... basically a whole new team. Also mentioned on tis board is the fact that no-one else seemed to be going after these players except bullard (the creative one), and the then 'unknown' Cresswell. (we needed a left back) Ingimarsson got injured, southampton and pboro showed drasticaly we needed a new experianced defender, we got Sonko Everyone was questioning Edwards at Right Back he got in Wabara from City this i think is vastly different to the late magilton era and especially Keane who seemed to buy players because they were available e.g. magilton lots of CMs instead of a LM we were crying out for, although he was a little bit unfortunate with Civelli, Keane - my biggest example of this is Colbacks second spell, great player but completely unneeded when we got him back. I will get shot at from all angles for mentioning the words transitional and season but this is what it is, may not be traditional long term thinking but every building needs a foundation to work from, what jewell had was a bombsite. There was crictism when he brought these players in for being too old when what we needed was experience, it seems fairly hypocritical to start saying now that these players have the quality to make us do much better than we are and slowly Jewell is bringing in/back the youthfulness and speed that we seemed full of at the start of the season (read p'boro) about the humiliating defeats - hard to defend however, after p'boro it began to turn around courtesy of some new signings and a couple of weeks later we were one point from second the system he had was working - we criticised previous managers for trying to fix what wasnt broke, ok there wasnt much of a plan B, but that plan B was by and large the p'boro attackers, when his system showed it didnt bring results anymore he tried to change it around a bit (crystal palace) and looks like he has been trying to find a new blend with some of the fringe/younger players. I expect that next match carson will I think the time hes had here is fairly irrelevant - keane had three matches before being able to change his team Jewell had to cope with about half a season of Keanes team before he could make repairs. Jewells time here hasn't been perfect and what im arguing is a positive spin on things i recognize that, but i also recognize that Jewell was put to work on fixing a rotten ship that had many holes and all he had to stop it from sinking was some used chipboard/driftwood (Bowyer, Ingi, Bullard etc) to keep the ship afloat untill he could pick up some new top class ship building equipment on the way (Stockdale, Cresswell, JET (yet to be fitted in properly), Carson, Wabara (not seen him play but heard good things) and hopefully more come january). So it shouldnt be overly surprising if holes keep on emerging. All hail strained analogies...
Westlake When Keane bought Leadbitter many thought it was a fantastic signing and even the Sunderland fans said what a great signing he was for us, sadly he has failed to live up to his price tag/rep. Yes i did think Keane would be a good manager but i was wrong, so what!! As for your comment about me being on here after every defeat, get your facts right my friend, Saturday was my first post for 3 weeks and in that time we got beat by Palace and Millwall, only decided to vent my frustrations after the 3rd defeat. In future get your facts right before accusing someone of something!!
