http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...efenders-comments-were-used-as-an-insult.html JOHN TERRY was found guilty of racially abusing Anton Ferdinand because his comments were used as an insult. That is the verdict of the Football Association, who have today published a 63-page report explaining their decision to ban the Chelsea captain for four games and fine him £220,000. The document makes it clear the FA do not deem Terry to be a racist but that his defence was âimprobable, implausible and contrivedâ and had âno credible basisâ. Blues skipper JT admitted using the words âf***ing black c***â during a match at QPR in October last year but had claimed he had only been repeating words he thought Ferdinand had accused him of saying. Terry has been given 14 days to appeal the decision. The report said: âThe commission is entitled to use its collective experience of life and people to judge demeanour. âWe have watched the film footage many times. In the critical phase, during which he uses the words, Mr Terry can be seen to be smiling initially, before his facial expression changes to disdainful and contemptuous. âAt no point is his demeanour and facial expression that of someone who is imploring, injured, or even quizzical in the face of an unfounded allegation by Mr Ferdinand that he had just been racially abusive towards him. âAnger is a conceivable reaction to such an accusation, but at no time does Mr Terry convey any sense of âno, I didnâtâ with his facial expression, or body language.â The report added: âIn the light of those findings, the commission is quite satisfied, on the balance of probabilities, that there is no credible basis for Mr Terryâs defence that his use of the words were directed at Ferdinand by way of forceful rejection and/or inquiry. âInstead, we are quite satisfied, and find on the balance of probabilities, that the offending words were said by way of insult.â So a defence which can pass in a court of law can not pass in a FA court... In all seriousness, wtf?
The FA are ****. They charged Martinez just for stating an opinion which was critical of Manchester United. They're ****s.
Ashley Cole ‏@TheRealAC3 Hahahahaa, well done #fa I lied did I, #BUNCHOFTWATS And now they annoy the best left back in the world....doh!
I agree with the FA and couldn't believe the courts didn't do him too. If any of us had said these comments and in the manner Terry did, we wouldn't have got away with it. Terry ADMITTED saying what Anton accused him of, would he have if the video evidence of it wasn't so clear? And if you think Terrys excuse that he was repeating what Anton accused him of is true. I have a bridge for sale.
What a pile of ****. He was charged for saying that Michael Oliver was biased. (Which brought up the charge.) He is now considering an appeal.
MackemsRule,the bridge you have for sale is called "Stamford",is it??Terry is as guilty as sin and just used high-profile lawyers to get him off.He should have been charged and tried months ago,found guilty,and still be banned today!!Kick racism out...what a joke!
Spot on. a high level QC defended Terry and could produce any kind of explanation that would throw doubt onto the whole happening. At least the FA showed wisdom is condemning him on the balance of probability which speaks volumes for them. Like or loath the FA they are not the dummies the average fan think they are. They have to look after football as a whole from schols to overpaid pros. They do a good job in my book.
Apparently the Suarez case was different because he used the racial term in the insult (black/negro) more than once, whereas Terry used it once. Completely agree with Nostalgic. Terry was (very fortunately) let off in a court of law, because they had to prove it. Even the judge said his defence was unlikely but he couldn't prove otherwise for sure. The FA only had to prove beyond probabilities and have done a great job in my eyes. Personally, Terry is not 'a racist', but he had used racist language on this occasion. 4 matches? One more than a red card? He's smiling all the way home.
Spot on, the FA did everything by the book. They had to wait for the court case to finish, as otherwise Terry's high flying QC's could have used it to hoy the case out of court. As it is they still ended up manipulating the system enough to get him off. More times than enough the FA get it wrong, but in the Terry case they are on the ball. They believed Anton and not Terry. If their had been no video evidence, I would still have believed Anton. Rather than a lying cheating philanderer.
I don't think Terry is racist. He has never discriminated against blacks, or victimised someone FOR BEING BLACK. It was simply the insult he chose to throw at this particular person. On another day it may have been fat ****, ugly **** etc etc etc. Still wrong like, but blown out of proportion for me, horrible individual, not racist.
So calling someone a "****ing black ****" isn't racist in your world? He may not be racist in every day life. I wouldn't know. (You seem to know a lot about Terry do you live with him? It's the only way you could state these "facts" you are spouting.) What he said WAS racist. Try going up to a coloured police officer and say that to him, see what you get charged with.
I didn't say they were facts, just giving my opinion MR. For me, the use of the word "black" is taken as too offensive. How is that a different insult to calling someone fat, or ugly, or stupid, it's exactly the same for me. It's a vile thing to say, but imo true "racism" is discrimination, not a bunch of words.
He should never have repeated that language on a football pitch even if he thought that is what Ferdinand said. If you have seen the clip you will see the venom with which Terry said it, that could not be construed as querying what had been said. The FA don't get a lot right, but on this occasion the QC who made the call was spot on. And as for racism not being as serious when it is verbal - is neanderthal thinking. So monkey chants and chucking bananas at coloured players is okay TopTierToon?
The FA are morons and should have just followed suit when the court case ended. Now we have it dragging on further and Terry basically has no choice but to appeal really. In all probability he'll win his appeal too. Either that or it could get very messy with him taking the FA to court......................
The courts deal with the law. The FA operate within a code of conduct, Terry breached that in their judgement. I doubt that even Terry would be daft enough to appeal through the courts against a body to which he is registered.
I have emboldened the phrase Terry used on a pitch and imo why he is guilty - he should not have repeated it unless to cause offence. JOHN TERRY was found guilty of racially abusing Anton Ferdinand because his comments were used as an insult. That is the verdict of the Football Association, who have today published a 63-page report explaining their decision to ban the Chelsea captain for four games and fine him £220,000. The document makes it clear the FA do not deem Terry to be a racist but that his defence was “improbable, implausible and contrived” and had “no credible basis”. Blues skipper JT admitted using the words “f***ing black c***” during a match at QPR in October last year but had claimed he had only been repeating words he thought Ferdinand had accused him of saying. Terry has been given 14 days to appeal the decision. The report said: “The commission is entitled to use its collective experience of life and people to judge demeanour. “We have watched the film footage many times. In the critical phase, during which he uses the words, Mr Terry can be seen to be smiling initially, before his facial expression changes to disdainful and contemptuous. “At no point is his demeanour and facial expression that of someone who is imploring, injured, or even quizzical in the face of an unfounded allegation by Mr Ferdinand that he had just been racially abusive towards him. “Anger is a conceivable reaction to such an accusation, but at no time does Mr Terry convey any sense of ‘no, I didn’t’ with his facial expression, or body language.” The report added: “In the light of those findings, the commission is quite satisfied, on the balance of probabilities, that there is no credible basis for Mr Terry’s defence that his use of the words were directed at Ferdinand by way of forceful rejection and/or inquiry. “Instead, we are quite satisfied, and find on the balance of probabilities, that the offending words were said by way of insult.” The FA charge is different to the civil charge, much in the same way that if someone kicks or punches a player during a match they get fined and suspended by the FA rather than going to the criminal courts. The charge Terry faced in the civil law courts was different to the charge by the FA, hence why he can be found not guilty of the civil charge but guilty of the lesser FA charge.
