http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/27289819 This has been reported on the BBC site. The FA are starting to consider the creation of a B League fromed from Prem and Champ teams. Not a bad idea in and of itself. But then it states that the League would be placed within the Pyramid system and impact L2 and Conf clubs. If this happens, one of the biggest ramifications would be the end of the Loan System. Why would a Prem or Champ club loan a player to a L1 or L2 club when they could play them in this B league. Also don't we already have a U-21 league? And why not just restart the old Football Combination for everybody? Thoughts?
I personally would welcome this but I think it's dead in the water. Premier league will not accept it.
Bring back the super league discussion so the Manchester citys and Real Madrids can spend there vast amounts of money in it and thye re "B " team can stay in the domestic league
I dont like the idea. i want to see teams from all the towns and cities pushing for what we have acheived and not a second division filled with Man utd and man city at the expense of peterboroughs and Doncasters.
Agree, not up for this despite the positive ramifications of having our "B-team" or Under-21s playing regular competitive games, also we'd need a huge roster of players to sustain something like this.
This ^ . what could be more depressing than having no ambition for the club because the dream has been denied by the big clubs .
I don't think it would destroy the Loan System. Teams would still loan to Premier League, Championship and even League 1 clubs. At the end of the day, the League 2 and Conference level isn't that great, so the B team wouldn't be the level to test your players and then put them straight into PL football off the back of that. From what I understand the B teams wouldn't promote/relegate. Despite my above comments, I still don't like the idea. The Premier League would favour a beefed up Academy league for players aged under 23, modelled on America's college football system. - This makes much more sense to me. A proper league for U-23s, not the joke reserve/academy leagues that we currently have. If you haven't graduated into professional football by 23, either find a lower level or semi-pro club, or give up - no more 28 year olds stealing a living in reserve teams year-after-year please!
Exuse my ignorance here. How does it work. If Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea bteams finish 1,2 and 3 in the championsip, does that mena there would be no promotion or relegation to the PL or would the teams finishishing 4,5 and 6 come up.
It's not really been decided how it's going to work. But from what I can see, the B teams would start in a league between League 2 and the Conference. Reading the article properly, I was wrong and the B teams will promote, but they probably won't be allowed into the Championship. At some point, they'll stop promoting. I'm intrigued by your question though. If Chelsea B finish top of League 1, does that mean that the best placed non-reserve teams get promoted, or does it mean that 1 less team gets relegated from the Championship? What if there are 10 B teams in League 1 and they finish as the top-10 in that division? Do the 11th and 12th placed team gain automatic promotion? It's too weird. Can't happen.
The Spanish B teams have to remain at least 1 division below the parent team - if the parent team goes down so does the B team, even if they topped the league. Also there will be almost zero support for a B team so the gate money from away fans (which is utterly crucial to the survival of smaller clubs) will vanish. All this will do is devalue the lower leagues and cause the big teams to hoard youngsters even more than they already do. Maybe think around the issue and go with the Italian model where you can take 12 subs on the bench to any game (but can still only use 3). Rather than just having the limited subs we currently do you could take the best youngsters to every game and drop them into action when the going is good.
The game needs to move on like everything else in life and any new ideas should be discussed by FiFa and if they think its a good idea then it should be welcomed. We cant stand still. I am in favour of a super league myself for all the really big clubs. there is plenty of money in the game to start thinking of a way forward in Europe and not just this country.
So under this super league there would be no Champions league then is that right. As they are all ready playing against each other.
Better for the BBC and ITV to approach the Premier League to televise the U-21 leagues, it will get our kids used to it. Imagine if other countries like Spain, Germany, Brazil and Holland did this... oh wait, they do!!
We have a similar thing in Denmark (in Spain) they've got it too. The b-squads can't be promoted above a certain level. It works fine, and plenty players are still loaned out...
Listening to Dyke on SSN, why should Accrington or York lose out because Man utd want a B team in league 2. Utter Bollox. But only for PL clubs as I heard it, If top championship clubs want a b team then it is no. So what if a PL club has a B team and gets relegated.
How about an A, B and C Premier League (Change the name) A = 20 A teams (same as at present) B & C = 2 regional leagues of 20 (20 B teams and 20 Championship teams) initially made up of B sides and higher finishing Championship teams. Teams (top 6 from each region combine to play in 2 mini leagues for 4 promotion spots via Europa League style group stage with promoted sides then playing knock out for 1st - 4th place to gain added finances and / or trophy) Bottom 4 from each region combine to play in a mini league for 6 retained places.) B Teams play a Europa League style group stage with semi-final and finals for a Cup / shield / pint mug type thing. Remainder of the League teams could have a similar format with Championship B teams making up the numbers. Simple
Prem A 20 teams play as this season - 4 teams relegated Prem B & C Regional (North / South or East / West) each with 20 team as follows Part 1 10 B teams (Premier League Teams' second team, i.e. Swansea B, Liverpool B) 10 A teams from the Championship (i.e. Cardiff A, Brighton A) Each parallel league of 20 (North / South or East / West) play each other. Part 2 At the end of the above, the 6 top A teams in PREMB & PREMC (12 teams in total) are placed in 2 leagues of 6. The winners and runners up from these leagues gain promotion to the PREMA (current Premier League) (These 4 could play a semi final and final to decide on the Champion team) The other 4 A teams from the Championship (i.e. Cardiff A, Brighton A) from each league would combine to find 2 or 4 teams to be relegated. They would be replaced by teams forming the current League 1 & 2 (If additional teams were needed - conference teams could be added.) For the B teams that could not be promoted - (Premier League Teams' second team, i.e. Swansea B, Liverpool B) there would be a knock out shield. 4 leagues of 5 with winners from each group playing a further semi-final and final. Any better?
