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The cash will not be splashed

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  1. akagreengull2

    akagreengull2 Member

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    Carl Fletcher is in the press this morning,stating that James Brent will be keeping strict controls on spending in the transfer window and warning fans not to expect any "expensive signings".looks like Fletch believes he can put faith in the existing team,and will be going all out to get deals on Chadwick and Purse to sign permanently.So as fans do we think we can get by without any additions or do we desperately need to strengthen in the transfer window.:emoticon-0112-wonde
     
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    We all knew the cash was tight anyway.....but one or two signings would really help our cause.
     
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  3. WestCountrylalala

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    This year will be no different than previous years then, whilst all around us improve Argyle stagnate!
     
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  4. akagreengull2

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    Yes must admit I feel disappointed with the clubs stance,whilst we can see there is a need to manage the finances carefully, given the nightmare everyone associated with the club has been through,I think most fans would want the team to be strengthened given our position still,despite recent form improving.Reading Fletchers comments today it is apparent he will only spend any money available (whatever that ammount is) on the "right" players.In his defence,so far all five of his recent signings have been good ones,so at the moment I for one am happy to trust his judgement.Just hope he gets it right.
     
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    It may be disappointing but I don't think it can be said to be surprising - none of the bidders talked about putting large sums into the club except to pay off the debts & cover the ongoing losses run up by the previous lot.

    Anyway, Fletcher mentions "managing the club within its means" - and given the horror story of the last couple of years, you'd think most fans would believe that is exactly the right course to take.
     
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  6. sensiblegreeny

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    On this one I agree with you notdistant. This club cannot afford to throw money at anything and supporters should just look back on the last 3 years and applaud that stance not condemn it. All Managers trot out the "right person" thing so there is no surprises there either. They can hardly say "I will blow cash on rubbish on purpose and I don't care". I expect at least one signing not including Purse or Chadwick who I think are pretty much already onboard. Maybe we will get two but I doubt there will be a bus load coming in. I am happy with that as I think this squad is good enough to stay up. I surprises me that supporters have the attention span of a goldfish when it comes to shelling out the pennies and already are expressing dismay at shed loads not being available now. Nobody ever said there was buckets of cash or promised anything.
     
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  7. WestCountrylalala

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    Not really complaining sensible, just stating a FACT that this happens every year and no I didn't expect any different. I guess you can say I'm resigned to it by now.
     
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  8. sensiblegreeny

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    But it doesn't happen every year does it. Only the last couple when we were broke and going backwards. Our troubles stemmed from buying loads of players previously who were crap. I remember when we signed this one and that one and everyone saying it was a good signing and how everything would now be fine and dandy. We simply should be resigned to not spending much for now. We may be on the mend but we are far from completely well yet and it is going to take a bit of time before we are punching our own weight again. Brent stated there would be no big spending at the start of all of this and so far he has kept his word on everything he promised and stated so why anyone should think it would suddenly change is slightly beyond me.
     
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  9. Westernmac

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    I can't fathom why anyone should be either surprised or disappointed. Nothing much has changed in our financial state and it seems to me that we need more folks coming to games before we have any cash to throw around. We have to run on the basis of our current revenue. James Brent never promised to be a sugar daddy but if the club runs in a sensible, economically viable way, I'll be satisfied for now. We've been in the smelly stuff for about three years so survival and gradual rebuilding are the order of the day.
     
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    There is something else people are forgetting westernmac. The fact that we have to have a wage structure that is a percentage of our income. Big or bigger signings would require a wage to go with that which might be more than we are allowed. This isn't the premiership or championship where any silly wages go.
     
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    Regardless of what you say, those around us will probably strenghen their squad which will make it even more difficult for us. I'm not demanding we spend money we don't have, I'm pointing out that by not spending we will struggle. It aint rocket science is it???
     
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    But nobody has said we won't spend anything have they. I've read figures of £200k somewhere but can't remember where now. I think we will sign a couple even though I also still believe this squad now would be ok. The last bit of that is of course opinion and others might not agree with that.
     
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  13. akagreengull2

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    At last a bit of a debate on these boards.The one thing that reassures me is that Fletcher seems quite focussed on who he needs to come in on the back of already making some shrewd signings e.g Hemmings,Purse and obviously Chadwick.
     
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    I don't believe we will buy anyone who isn't already here on loan - maybe one other but otherwise not. January will be the defining point for us, we will either sink or swim (up the league) and I believe what we spend or not will be the deciding factor.

    I have grown tired of watching all around us buy and secure on the last day of the window and we were never part of that. I know all the arguments about us not having the money, not spending what we don't have blah blah blah doesn't mean I have to like it, it's immensely frustrating.
     
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    That's what we have all been waiting for aka I think. The speculation on the who and when will be rife soon.
     
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  16. WestCountrylalala

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    ..the speculation inevitably leads to dissapointment.
     
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  17. sensiblegreeny

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    Christ Mrs lalala, I know this time of year can be depressing but please don't head towards Saltash and have to cross that bridge.................... We would all love a crack at being Man City but then again so would a lot of other premiership clubs. It isn't going to happen in my lifetime but at least I have a team and it is still alive.
     
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    I do feel that Purse,Chadwick,Hemmings have come through the efforts of our old friend Peter Ridsdale...........and as we have been told he will be around during the January transfer window.

    So Fletcher isn't actually picking his own players as yet...........thats my view.........I don't think he is ready quite yet with the experience that he has acquired from his short management career.
     
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    Will you give over on your saintly appraisals of Mr Ridsdale plymborn. To say that Fletcher is not his own man when it comes to picking a player is purely a guess on your part. He is a professional player himself so it is a bit patronising to suggest he can't recognise a player when he sees one. He may need a bit of help in the financial aspects of negotiating a contract but he has O'Driscoll for that for advice. Brent will do the sums or at least one of his employees will and his solicitor will draw up the contract itself. Where does Ridsdale come into the equation except to have said he will hang around and assist if needs be. Fletcher's possible whole future might depend management wise on the fist he makes of this post so I cannot see him taking undue risks on a potential lemon. We have to trust him and also give him some credit for having a brain himself. He hasn't done that badly so far even if the world hasn't been set on fire.
     
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  20. Plymborn

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    sensible..........show me where the guesswork is regarding Purse...........100% Ridsdale's doing, all the write ups said so...........his influence will be through his little black book of contacts...........At the moment Fletcher's very little black book will only have a few doodles in...........it takes awhile to build up contacts,length of experience around the circuit a few times takes time to develop.

    Remember the first thing said when Ridsdale left............was would Purse sign in January............hopefully he will.
     
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