Off Topic THE BUDGET..... AND!

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There ARE tax rises.
Alcohol and tobacco (as usual) - although the 11% reduction for draught drinks will cancel the rise out for pubs, leaving prices (and tax) more or less as it is for them.
Also, given recent inflation and (some) pay increases to soften the blow, the treasury is reaping £billions in ‘hidden’ taxes by way of VAT on goods which have gone up, plus income taxes on new (higher) wages.
We in the UK are paying more tax now than ever before in the history of this nation - even when we had the Napoleonic, WW1 and WW2 to pay for.
Someone somewhere has disastrously mismanaged the economy along the way when this level of taxation is necessary for us to balance the books - especially when we are not (yet) at war.
It was badly communicated at the time, but Liz Truss's vision for growth last Autumn was still the preferred way forward, even if it wasn't costed or funded properly
If the Government got a grip on the billions being spent and wasted on Benefit cheats, illegal immigration, and the black market economy and the like, we'd all be better off and would pay less taxes.
 
There ARE tax rises.

with respect to your interpretations
These are not tax rises, they are increases in revenue which is different from a tax rise.
A tax rise is an adjustment to the rate that tax is applied. EG ... CAR TAX say it was £200 PA and increased to £220 or income tax [ mentioned in your post ] levied at 20p in £ is a tax rise if it goes to 22p in pound or the the parameters [ personal allowances ] change where tax is 20p /40p 45p applied ...
Vat is generally 20% if that goes to 22% IT'S a rise if the amount spent by someone is increased it is a + to .gov revenue stream .. if they spend less .gov gets less
 
It was badly communicated at the time, but Liz Truss's vision for growth last Autumn was still the preferred way forward, even if it wasn't costed or funded properly
If the Government got a grip on the billions being spent and wasted on Benefit cheats, illegal immigration, and the tax revenue being avoided by the thousands in the black market economy and such like, we'd all be better off and we would probably pay less taxes.
 
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It was badly communicated at the time, but Liz Truss's vision for growth last Autumn was still the preferred way forward, even if it wasn't costed or funded properly
If the Government got a grip on the billions being spent and wasted on Benefit cheats, illegal immigration, and the black market economy and the like, we'd all be better off and would pay less taxes.
this is the way forward .. it is a painful time ahead for some .. they will have to work ...find they have wasted £4000 plus getting here and being sent away... hardest bit is the blackmarket economy every day Border force catch unregistered migrants / even banned from working migrants while they wait for a yes or no getting paid cash in hand at low rates and robbing unemployed from getting the job!

2 restaurants on same road both sell same food at same quality and decor is reasonable, both use same wholesalers for ingriedients, one sells a main meal for £15 the other exactly the same but at £22 THE £15 one is always busy the other gets half as many, what is the difference?
 
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this is the way forward .. it is a painful time ahead for some .. they will have to work ...find they have wasted £4000 plus getting here and being sent away... hardest bit is the blackmarket economy every day Border force catch unregistered migrants / even banned from working migrants while they wait for a yes or no getting paid cash in hand at low rates and robbing unemployed from getting the job!

2 restaurants on same road both sell same food at same quality and decor is reasonable, both use same wholesalers for ingriedients, one sells a main meal for £15 the other exactly the same but at £22 THE £15 one is always busy the other gets half as many, what is the difference?
I wonder !
 
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this is the way forward .. it is a painful time ahead for some .. they will have to work ...find they have wasted £4000 plus getting here and being sent away... hardest bit is the blackmarket economy every day Border force catch unregistered migrants / even banned from working migrants while they wait for a yes or no getting paid cash in hand at low rates and robbing unemployed from getting the job!

2 restaurants on same road both sell same food at same quality and decor is reasonable, both use same wholesalers for ingriedients, one sells a main meal for £15 the other exactly the same but at £22 THE £15 one is always busy the other gets half as many, what is the difference?
Ill guess . Maybe The cheaper one uses unregistered illegal workers and pays less than minimum wage ?
 
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2 restaurants on same road both sell same food at same quality and decor is reasonable, both use same wholesalers for ingriedients, one sells a main meal for £15 the other exactly the same but at £22 THE £15 one is always busy the other gets half as many, what is the difference?

Here's another one JGF.
Country #1, sells off its Utility companies (say, Electricity) to a foreign giant (lets say EDF) during a policy of 'off-loading' state-run businesses.
Energy (electricity) bills in that country have rocketed recently and customers and businesses are struggling to cope.

Country #2, maintains state control of its Electricity company, which actually bought out the formerly state-run Electricity company of Country #1.
Energy (electricity) bills in Country #2 have only risen by a fraction of those in Country #1, because the increase in costs have been offset by people from Country #1 paying higher prices for their energy.
Country #2's customers and businesses are able to cope, because the increase has been so slight - thanks largely to it being subsidised by the struggling paying customers of Country #1.

It's the same company, providing the same product - at 2 VERY different prices!

See if you can guess what Country #1 and Country #2 are........
 
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Ill guess . Maybe The cheaper one uses unregistered illegal workers and pays less than minimum wage ?
:emoticon-0148-yes: when caught they get fines in 5 figures .. so how much profit must they make?

See if you can guess what Country #1 and Country #2 are........
bon jour ... ooo aaah oooo ahhhhh!

When it comes to electricity the French are very good at it! The same water can power 1 - 2 - 3 separate turbine generating stations, every / most reservoirs have power generation at or close to dams. Also / some of even the smallest / smaller Reservoirs in surface area, have the public pay to do a tour... in SE France near Gap/ Briancon it was raining cats and dogs , so we stopped at this "tourist attraction" off the main road, Carpark big enough for about 10 campers and 30 or so cars. Nothing better to do we paid our few Euro and followed the arrows through a sort of "museum/ info centre " this led into a "waiting room area where a tour every 30-45 mins set off to see the inner dam and power generating ... Dam was about 200 foot high maybe from memory the width of access on the Chew Magna causeway .. no bigger, likely smaller surface wise than Blagdon. This reservoir was about at about 800m further on 2 more generating stations about a mile apart... all money and makes for cheaper bills