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The Breakfast Debate

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, Oct 16, 2017.

  1. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member
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    Good Morning Everyone

    In the space of a month we have gone from the in form team to the Millwall of the division.

    What has gone wrong, and how can it be put right?

    Obviously be need a plan B, for when things go wrong.

    Does Christiensen have a plan B?




    Secondly Lassoga looks stranded up front by himself. (That could be our plan B <doh>)

    He desperately needs someone to feed off.




    Goal keeping.

    Probably fair to say but I'd be surprised if we don't sign another keeper in January, and get rid of Felix

    Thoughts?




    Midfield

    It has no bite.




    If you have to pick 5 players to drop from Saturday, who would they be?
     
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  2. Eric Le Merde

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    Sixth in the league, isn't too bad. We need to buck our ideas up a bit a the moment but I would say we have a good squad, coach and owner. Why all the doom and gloom wtf did people expect? an invincible legion of titans !! We will lose (note spelling) and we will win. If we win 10 more we will be in this league next year, if we keep the average up so far then play-offs. If we get better then who knows, but ffs stop slitting your throats, it ain't worth it. Chillax take a deep breath and enjoy ALAW?

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    Oh I'm such a happy clappy !!!!!
     
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  3. ristac

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    Morning all...

    I'm sure I read yesterday that we played plan B and we we played with two up front?

    In my opinion neither of our keepers are good enough, easily drop Roofe and Hernandez but would struggle for another three, I don't know if their replacements would fair better. Lasogga the obvious choice but for who?
     
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  4. Doc

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    Stop worrying we are a mile better than last season and think one of our problems is Pontus. Seems likely Pontus was asked to calm down as the team didnt want him banned. Seems to me I want Pontus back out of his box and doing his stuff and risking a ban. We have cover now.

    We are rotating some players/positions yet nothing working at the moment so maybe we should do something different especially up front. I like Lassoga but he needs the ball, something to run onto a partner would help

    We are supposed to be bringing in a Pole keeper in January who we thought was for the U23 but maybe he walks ahead of BPF
     
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  5. leeds60

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    Good Morning to Matt and co from a strangely calm Bardsey with an autumnal look to it
    Well I didn't read most posters because the doomsters amongst us make me feel sad
    I have every faith in AR TO get us to the promised land
    I think that we will need a real left back and a really good keeper .Then we look forward to our Japanese Bremner so all is not lost
     
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  6. ristac

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    I'd forgotten about the Japanese guy <ok>
     
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  7. Doc

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    Still unsure how the Japanese player gets a work permit in the UK? If he goes out on loan to the Spanish club he gets one, if he moves to the Spanish club he gets one but even if they loan him to us he still doesn't get one? Obviously Radz & Co are on top of this but ....
     
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  8. Eric Le Merde

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    Not being at the matches but is it likley that Hernandez needs to be on the bench with Saiz in the starting lineup with perhaps Vieira to support ?
     
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  9. Chippy / Glory

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    You did, wj said it. But those with a clue who went say plan B was exactly the same as Plan A apart from Longeran tried to go long but his kicks only went 30 yards so we were still playing slowly from the back but starting from hit and hope clearances.

    Correct about the keepers. But if Lasogga is the answer you are not being asked the right question. with the exception of saiz you could drop all the rest for the good they are doing. Even Ayling is a shadow of his former self and if this is the new Pontus we should have sold him!
     
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  10. Doc

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    Pablo has been great but think we all know he cant do it every game, so Tommy for me has to look at a bit of steel for some games whereby Klich or Viera are added to O'Kane & Phillips. It ma be time to drop O'Kane and play Viera or Klich anyway, but for some games I would add Klich so we have 3 defensive midfielders knowing that Klich can play some great cutting balls into the front players.

    Does Tommy think Alioski is a lightweight as he gets dropped after every International, so maybe time again in some games to look at the number 10 spot and use Pablo when Siaz fails
     
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  11. MIGHTY

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    Change this one for that one maybe him up front use plan B

    FFS its mid October and you still cant find a settled side <laugh>
     
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  12. Eric Le Merde

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    Grow up
     
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  13. MIGHTY

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    IN your ignore post was it <ok>
     
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  14. MIGHTY

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    No
     
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    It


    I bet you thought you had me there.....
    I was advised by PM to take a look at one of his responses that I might find funny. It wasnt that one, but the one where he denied being fished whilst leaping onto a hook that he couldnt swim past......












    Bet he does it again now.

    Oh and the reason they were having a laugh at his expense was his use of the royal "we" or claiming to speak for others again. I didn't even notice until it was explained...
     
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  16. ristac

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    Serious question, which games has he been great please? I'm guessing you might be able to pick out 1 in 5 maximum, that is far too infrequent to hope that when you pick him it will be a good day.

    Klitch - I am truly lost as to where you have seen him play some great cutting balls? This is typical knee jerk, we perform badly so we call for one of the subs or reserve players to get a chance, when they do we usually think "oh dear" that's why he hasn't been playing.

    LeedsLover was devasted that Alioski had been dropped but the truth is, he has been very poor. We drop him and the replacement fairs no better. Like chopping and changing a coach or manager we are calling for the coach to chop and change the players with no evidence? At least the coach gets to see the players on the training pitch every day.
     
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    Read an article earlier, it said Thomas created the biggest clanger of the season dropping Green and blindly playing the new signing Wieldwald without seeing him play. That caused Green to request a transfer and now we are stuck with two not very good keepers. It made me wonder if Thomas felt compelled to play the new guy or was it really his choice to drop Green, was Green on too much money?? Just a thought...
     
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  18. Doc

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    More stories refuting that than supporting it, but if it was anywhere near true it would be a huge error.

    As far as Pablo and Klich are concerned this is all about personal views, and subjective at that. But if you read half the shyte posted elsewhere the clubs in meltdown, Tommy needs sacking, blah blah blah. You may not think Pablo has performed well, I think he has for the most part but only when he gets on the ball. I think hes been found lacking defensively but has contributed good crosses, goals, assists and looked a danger. I did say he cant do back to back games and needs resting now. I get you dont like Klich but as far as I'm concerned he should be a starter as he aint no lightweight, has been very unlucky to be injured in pre season then Phillips keeping him out deservedly so. However Phillips and O'Kane are not doing the business so therefore Klich deserves a chance as does Viera
     
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  19. ristac

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    Klich - I don't dislike him, I have no idea if he is any good or not and I was genuinely curious why he should be picked, I just wondered on what basis...

    Hernandez hadn't played for two weeks and he was still garbage, sorry it has nothing to do with age and playing back to back games, he hasn't the desire or commitment.
     
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  20. MIGHTY

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    be careful mukka cos when I prove Doc wrong (which is quite often) he gets abusive <laugh>
    Hernandez when iv seen him is ****e took a few good corners once.
    Klich who ? <laugh>
    also said Lasogga would be a world beater and the muppet from Man Utd would be a great signing I did tell him different <ok>
     
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