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The Breakfast Debate

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, Apr 22, 2014.

  1. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member
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    Good Morning Everyone,

    Here's a stat that none of you will believe!!!

    We have lost more games than Millwall!!!

    Thoughts?


    That's right folks. Yesterdays loss to a poor Forest side put us on the same number of losses as Blackpool (21), and only two losses shy of Barnsley and Yeovil who are all but relegated.

    We have drawn the least games in the Championship with 8.


    McDermott always used to use the excuse, We have no wingers!!!

    The thing is, the wingers he bought in are terrible. Stewart is so bad, he didn't make it off the bench!!!


    Here are a few stats from yesterdays game.

    Forest have 5 shots on goal, 5 on target and scored two (should have been three)

    Leeds had 25 shots at goal, three on target, and didn't score !!!

    We had 69% of the possession, and had seven times the number of corners that they did!

    Bearing this in mind, why did we look so poor?


    Looking at the league table, thank goodness we had those two wins recently.

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    [TD="class: position"]16[/TD]
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    [TD="class: played, align: center"]44[/TD]
    [TD="class: goal-difference, align: center"]-10[/TD]
    [TD="class: points, align: center"]53[/TD]
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    [TD="class: position"]17[/TD]
    [TD="class: team-name"]Huddersfield[/TD]
    [TD="class: played, align: center"]44[/TD]
    [TD="class: goal-difference, align: center"]-8[/TD]
    [TD="class: points, align: center"]50[/TD]
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    [TR="class: team, bgcolor: #F5F5F5"]
    [TD="class: position"]18[/TD]
    [TD="class: team-name"]Charlton[/TD]
    [TD="class: played, align: center"]43[/TD]
    [TD="class: goal-difference, align: center"]-23[/TD]
    [TD="class: points, align: center"]45[/TD]
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    [TR="class: team, bgcolor: #F5F5F5"]
    [TD="class: position, bgcolor: #DCDCDC"]19[/TD]
    [TD="class: team-name, bgcolor: #DCDCDC"]Doncaster[/TD]
    [TD="class: played, bgcolor: #DCDCDC, align: center"]44[/TD]
    [TD="class: goal-difference, bgcolor: #DCDCDC, align: center"]-28[/TD]
    [TD="class: points, bgcolor: #DCDCDC, align: center"]44[/TD]
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    [TD="class: position"]20[/TD]
    [TD="class: team-name"]Millwall[/TD]
    [TD="class: played, align: center"]44[/TD]
    [TD="class: goal-difference, align: center"]-29[/TD]
    [TD="class: points, align: center"]44[/TD]
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    [TD="class: position"]21[/TD]
    [TD="class: team-name"]Birmingham[/TD]
    [TD="class: played, align: center"]43[/TD]
    [TD="class: goal-difference, align: center"]-13[/TD]
    [TD="class: points, align: center"]43[/TD]
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    [TD="class: position"]22[/TD]
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    [TD="class: played, align: center"]44[/TD]
    [TD="class: goal-difference, align: center"]-27[/TD]
    [TD="class: points, align: center"]43[/TD]
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    [TD="class: position"]23[/TD]
    [TD="class: team-name"]Barnsley[/TD]
    [TD="class: played, align: center"]44[/TD]
    [TD="class: goal-difference, align: center"]-30[/TD]
    [TD="class: points, align: center"]39[/TD]
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    [TD="class: position"]24[/TD]
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    [TD="class: goal-difference, align: center"]-26[/TD]
    [TD="class: points, align: center"]37[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]
     
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  2. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Morning all. It's gonna cost a fortune to put the mess right. Hope cellino and his wallet are up to it. McD cannot be left in charge for another game. No club would tolerate a manager losing 21 games in a season that's not even over yet
     
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  3. ristac

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    I believe we were very lucky not to be on the end of another thrashing... If Forest had not been told to sit back and defend the two goal cushion it could have been a lot worse.
     
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  4. Doc

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    What makes things even worse is that without Ross's 28 league goals we would be in the bottom 3. Ross's goals have earned us 21 points ffs, so Brian please leave us alone now, thats a nice bald chap. Worst results by any Leeds manager ever.

    Not good enough and you cannot keep protecting him because he's a nice bloke. He has been dire as can be seen with 90% of his signings. If Grayson had been backed like him, we would be going for top 6 and I'm not a Grayson apologist, just a realist. Warnock, Macca or Grayson would have been better that Brian
     
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  5. milkyboy

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    Morning all. They scored 2 early goals, courtesy of our keystone cops defending. Then sat back and asked us to break them down. We couldn't. On paper it looks like we were the better team, in reality there are lies damn lies and statistics.

    In fairness its hard to break down well organised sides who park the bus. It takes guile. We don't have guile. We just have (generally misplaced) endeavour. The trick would be not to give sides a two goal start in the first place. That would require good organisation and understsnding. We dont't have that. We have tom lees.
     
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  6. FORZA LEEDS

    FORZA LEEDS Well-Known Member

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    Morning all,

    To be fair, McDermott is still being hampered by off field problems


    Apparently he has a leaky tap at home.
     
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  7. ristac

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    After the Barnsley win, McD said there was a different air about the place, the ownership issue was sorted and quote "call it coincidence but we shall see". When I read that article I smiled to myself thinking "it had nothing to do with playing two very poor relegation threatened teams then?" we have seen nothing has changed on the pitch nobody else to blame now....
     
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  8. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    We passed the ball from side to side in front of their midfield and defence and then humped the ball in the air to Ross and once Smith came on we tried to play through them.. These are the tactics of a fool or someone trying to get sacked on purpose. There was no effort and no urgency.
    and for that the players have to be held to account.

    Players who should play for Leeds again:
    Pearce
    Byram ( only if he aint a croc)
    Brown (as he at least gives hs all)
    MacCormack (unless we get a £6 mill bid, and then we should sell), and only if he stops diving and sulking!
    Smith

    All the rest need to go. Play the kids for the last two games.

    First team players who are a disgrace to the shirt week in and week out:
    Lees
    Austin
    Hunt
    Kebe
    Stewart
    Poleon

    Manager who should be gone today:
    McDermott (He started to try and get fired at Hillsborough and we should have obliged him). It looks so bad I think it's bent.
     
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  9. FORZA LEEDS

    FORZA LEEDS Well-Known Member

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    I'd keep Murphy as well, when he's been played in his proper position he's looked useful, but for reasons I can't fathom he was switched back to DM yesterday.

    Poleon hasn't been given a fair chance this season, he looked a real livewire at Watford last game of last season.

    Hope McDermott gets put on gardening leave, he doesn't deserve a pay off
     
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  10. BoggersMOT

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    Will Moyes be our next Manager? Leeds legend!!!!
     
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  11. BoggersMOT

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    Morning all by the way
     
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  12. Infidel

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    That shambles last night, was and is the worst Leeds United side i have ever witnessed, we are poor from front to back.
    McDonut needs to be gone.....now, he is a poor excuse for a manager, the supporters have suffered enough they need to be apologised to by BMD and the majority of the players.
     
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  13. BillysStatue

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    Morning ... we lost because we had Brown and Tonge in midfield, both totally ineffective and Brown a fcuking disaster for both goals ... have a look at the goals again, Brown was a disgrace for both, and the second in particular showed he is so past it now and he should NEVER wear the White shirt again ... our squad is weak and we will need at least TWELVE new signings to have a chance of getting near the top six ... as for Forest, they are anything but poor, and the fact they sit one point off the playoffs shows this ... Poison Dwarf simply folded under pressure, but boy if Forest decide to play there's not many who will stay with them, and they were short a few quality players yesterday ... as for McD any debate on his future is a complete waste of time until Cellino reveals his hand as he will probably sack him, but if he somehow decides to keep McD then we can start analysing ... right now I think our focus should be on this dreadful squad of ours, and lets have no doubts here, every one of the out of contract players need to be released and a fresh start is needed ... I have heard that Cellino is being advised to look at Tim Sherwood who will be available in June, but then again he will probably have a dozen managers available in June to choose from ... Moyes anyone?


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  14. ristac

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    New manager - Has to be someone who can accept Cellino buying his own players and I have no doubt some will be temperamental Italians. With this in mind I feel Sherwood is too old fashioned in his approach to cope.
     
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  15. xbpod

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    10 years out of the top flight, cant see too many top managers would even consider us. We have to be realistic, any prem teams will have first pick and we will be left with whoever is not wanted by them.

    Too many on here live in the past.
     
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  16. Doc

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    How the hell can BMcD tell the YEP that he needs to rebuild the whole side over the summer. We all knew this last summer yet he brought in a load of shyte and then blames the turmoil caused by the sale for the clubs problems. Brian will not admit he is to blame for a lack of tactical nouse, team selection, bad transfer dealings, not able to organise a defense ....... Cellino is a smart cooky and he must know by now that most fans have had enough of excuses and he is now past his sell by date.
     
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  17. Irishshako

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    That's not funny Boggers....:wink:
     
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  18. Irishshako

    Irishshako Well-Known Member

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    The past is all we have left......<ok>
     
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  19. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    What's not funny is I have fecking gout.

    My fecking big toe is bastard killing me.
     
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  20. Irishshako

    Irishshako Well-Known Member

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    How do you get gout?

    Afternoon Glory.
     
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