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Plum said:
No govt comes out of this looking good, we are in a mess but implying it's all the current lot's fault is disingenuous and just plain wrong.
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Doesn't mask the fact that they themselves are disingenuous and wrong and we're all paying for it whether you're for or against..
 
Chazz Rheinhold said:
I know
They seem to expect Starmer to right all wrongs
He’s got no chance
He’s got to raise some money by increasing taxes but that’s a vote loser isn’t it
The care system is in a mess cos those ****s want to make money out of it
Private homes charging a fortune for next to **** all
My mates dad is in one in scarborough
2 grand a week
They’re supposed to give him 1-1 for a few hours daily
Take him out etc etc
They do **** all as short staffed
Don’t reduce their charges tho for that
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Hmmm, subtle or succinct? Subtle it is, we don't do politics on here you two faced mod whining ****.
 
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Gone For A Walk said:
A full new state pension will bring an increase of just over £500 per year.

However, what they don't shout about is:

- A basic rate taxpayer earning £35,000 will pay an estimated £4,500 income tax bill this year. Had the personal allowance tracked inflation since 2021, that bill would have been nearly £1,000  lower. For higher earners on £75,000, the freeze will cost around £4,800 extra in tax. I'm somwhere in the middle, as many will be with a SP plus a company pension and / or part time earnings still.

What a sleight of hand that is (not just for pensioners but for anyone with taxable income above the tax free threshold). Oh look, we've increased pensions ... but we won't shout out about the extra tax we're taking. And then there's increases in savings tax rate, dividend tax rate, air duty, and whatever. But no, we're not going to put taxes up!!

Then there's the April deluge of above inflation increases to Council Tax bills, Water bills (10% here), mid contract broadband & phone bills, etc etc.

This really can't go on year after year after year. It isn't sustainable. Something has to give. There has to be a different approach, a reset.

On another topic, further demonstrating how broken this country really is, across nearly all fronts. I attended a seminar about investing, care costs in later life, etc. The director of the company literally started by stating that the care system in this country is in crisis and the model is completely broken. Complex, opaque, conflicts of interests, lack of consistency, non-sensical, etc etc. and how promised reforms over decades are nowhere in sight and unlikely to come.

But no, Britain isn't broken at all. Example after example after example.
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Ok Balance to Books ?)
How do you pay the triple lock with tax cuts ?
 
We're paying over £850 million a year in benefits to dead people. Stuff like that shouldn't take much to cut out, and there's plenty more, like the consultants who for years have been charging the NHS for stuff they do privately. Despite a documentary exposing it, they were still at it years later and the whistle blower was sacked and black listed.

Point being, there is a lot of waste.
 
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DMD said:
Why is it always more tax rather than more efficiency and less wasteful spending?
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Wasteful spending.

When Lisa Nandy spent the best part of £1200 on 2 leather folders (£594 each) and then went on the T.V and whinged about people in poverty,you just new the whole thing was an absolute farce.

Absolute insult to any taxpaying Man or Woman.
 
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Cityzen said:
How do you pay for putting up illegals, increased the child benefit cap, give rises to public sector workers etc with tax cuts?
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The massive cioss in Britain are The Pension Benefit ,Benefits ,NHS , Education !
Now how do you square that with Tax cuts ?
Stop the Triple Lock ?
Tighten up on PIP .
Get the 3.34 million people that are currently looking for work into the 684,000 available jobs thus lowering the burden .
Cut back services and jobs thus again reducing tax revenue ?
 
Edelman said:
The massive cioss in Britain are The Pension Benefit ,Benefits ,NHS , Education !
Now how do you square that with Tax cuts ?
Stop the Triple Lock ?
Tighten up on PIP .
Get the 3.34 million people that are currently looking for work into the 684,000 available jobs thus lowering the burden .
Cut back services and jobs thus again reducing tax revenue ?
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Cutting back non productive jobs and services would be a saving. Pension is a benefit, so why didn’t they get the 7.2% increase benefit claimants got? Which was more than pensioners got under the triple lock. No need for a triple lock if we had decent state pensions like other countries.
 
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