Or pay the French millions for police to stand around on beaches watching the dinghies fill up.
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Other countries pay more into their pensions and can't opt out of the workplace ones like you can here .
My favourite grifters were WASPI. A bunch of well-off biddies pleading poverty and outrage because they were too thick to check the state pension age for 20 years.
Illegal is an adjective.
You're using it as a noun here.
It isn't a noun.
It's an adjective.
Shoddy grammar.
This month, yes. But it depends where you set your starting reference point. Another sleight of hand / deception.But the good news is Leccy and Gas bills are down....
To Chazz, no. I even said "year after year after year " and "decades". Next?
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Will you take your state pension when it comes your time or will you deduct the triple lock part and send it back.
The pension in this Country does not stand up against many European countries,we're mid table.
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Never doubted it for a moment.The bills have went up,he knocks a few quid off and people are salivating over them FFS.
Never mind tax cuts
How about just stopping putting the ****ers up?
It can't carry on like this.
How about just stopping putting the ****ers up?
It can't carry on like this.
They pay more into it .
To match the state pension you would need a pension pot for a retired couple of over £600,000.
You do know that the state pension is pay as you go don't you ?
And if I reach state pension age I won't be sat there whining and whining that it's whatever Government that's in at the times fault .
If most pensioners have lived their lives right they will have paid off their house and the £2,100 they get per year plus whatever savings they have will mean a comfortable amount to live on
In which case people will take minimum minimum wage jobs all their life and rent a property so the state makes up the rest.
Those people that paid off their mortgages are saving you tax, as you don't have to fund them half as much as you would if they were living on other benefits during retirement. I know several people that worked that out, and are doing quite nicely in retirement on benefits relative to someone just on state pension.
The freeze in basic tax allowance is a tax increase, as are several other hidden tax measures, such as inflation.
Yes,I've paid as I've went for 50 years and can see no reason why I shouldn't be rewarded for it.I never paid into private pensions,I was too busy bringing up 4 children and my pension contributions went on the dining table.
As for pensioners who have 'lived their lives right',what do you mean right? You are aware that there are a lot of people in the U.K who rent properties either from the Council of private landlords and don't have a pot to p!ss in,were they all wrong then?
More efficiency in governmental organisations all over the world generally means that taxpayers pay for private management consultants to tell them that the lowest paid, most essential jobs are unnecessary, which they then cut back with redundancies and reduced investment, resulting in worse services, and then use the money saved to pay for more management consultants and the cycle continues.
I wouldn't disagree, but that is simply an example of further waste, rather than a reason not to reduce waste rather than increase taxes.
If you are mainly relying on a state pension, you should look a bit more deeply into things, unless you think you want to and are going to be able to work for ever.
There will always be people who can't or won't buy a house .
65% of pensioners own their own home and should have it paid off by rights .
I'm now in my 60s and earn well below average wage
I live in an ex council house and will have it paid off by state pension age so you are talking to somebody who has 3 kids and missus only ever worked casual and part time jobs .
Without the triple lock, based on what you have said, you are liable to be living in relative poverty for your retirement.
Someone who has never paid in will be far better off than you, and cost the state more. That scenario is the likely outcome of what you are advocating for.
Is that really what you worked for?