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The **** all to do with transfers thread...

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Steven Toast, Jan 26, 2017.

  1. Steven Toast

    Steven Toast Well-Known Member

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    That's just my individual target, based on EAL and SEN/D, which make up a high proportion of both school and class.
     
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    I would genuinely like to hear your explanation of precisely how the educational system in Hull (in particular, the quality of students) became as dire as you describe it. A few decades ago, it had one of the most successful grammar school systems in the UK. What went wrong?
     
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  3. Steven Toast

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    Age related expectations.

    So basically, there working at where they are supposed to.
     
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  4. Steven Toast

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    It isn't dire, that's relational to what you want from the system. If you feel like the system is failing you, ask yourself why the child is failing. If it's because of outside influences, like social or economical factors, then that's beyond the schools control. They can accommodate the children and serve their needs, but anything else there rests with the parents. If it's an SEND issue, then the school should be providing support both emotionally and academically. No child is unteachable and every child has the right to everything the others do while they are in school. Not all can achieve the same thing, but if they can achieve in their own way then that's great too.

    What exactly is your grievance?
     
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  5. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    He's just a **** who likes to sneer at others. Thinks he's superior but spends his life on here correcting grammar and making snide unfunny jokes.
    You can't cure a ****.
    Him and patty like each other's posts. Says it all really.

    Keep up the good work at school. A thankless task.
     
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    Eeeek. He'll have a fit.
     
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    I don't have any grievances. I chose to leave the UK 30 years ago because I could see what was happening to the country and in particular the education system. I did not wish to put my four children through that system.
    But you've dodged my question. Paraphrasing, I asked you for your opinion on why the proportion of 'needy' students, as you describe, has rocketed so dramatically over the last few decades. I would like to see your considered response.
     
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  8. I'mBetterThanYouIWentTo..

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    Maybe you could ask your questions on schooling and get your answers via private message?
     
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  9. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    What the boring bengal **** notshow how brilliant he is to us all? Not a chance
     
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  10. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

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    Bang on...
     
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    And not fill the transfer thread with meaningless bollocks? Don't be ridiculous...

    Mods please can you sort it out, it's ruining the board.
     
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    My.school reports say I was unteachable

    All my teachers said the same

    When I showed my friend the teacher my.old reports he said nowadays teachers wouldn't be allowed to say what mine said about me

    Unteachable.
    Disrupts ever lesson.
    May as well not turn up.
    Etc

    I must have had adhd or whatever they call it before it was even invented

    My parents were decent folk and cant be blamed

    I was just a little xxxx
     
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  14. Chazz Rheinhold

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    And you've not changed a bit...
     
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  16. Steven Toast

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    Well 30 years ago a lot of the factors that inhibit learning weren't identified. Things like ADHD, which I myself suffered from (and still do, much to my dismay), autism and other behavioural and emotional issues were put down to loads of sugar and other things. Just like in science, educational research has come a long way and techniques have been implemented to allow children who are SEN/D to benefit from the support they need. I worked at the White House in Hull, a behaviour unit for children who are a danger to other children in the classroom and there were a lot of children who just need the attention.

    Another factor would be the quality of training for teachers. It's a lot harder to become one than it used to be; when I applied for my PGCE, another 1400 applied at the same time and from that, 400 were interviewed and 80 were taken from that group for the course. 30 years ago, it wasn't like that. The quality of teacher coming through now is very good; that's not to say those in the job don't do good work, that's not true. But either they adapt to the changing times or they don't bother and end up being a negative influence. To tar all Hull schools with the same brush is completely ridiculous and unfair and I sincereley hope you had a more genuine reason for doing so other than "Hull schools are crap" because they aren't. Hardly helps the city's image either, if everybody had had that attitude when you did, the City would've died a sad death. Good job people are willing to roll up their sleeves and do the hard work for those that can't toddle off to America.

    Anyway, apologies to everybody, I didn't mean to clog up the transfer thread, I've worked bloody hard to qualify as a professional and I'll be buggered if I'm going to let somebody discredit a profession working it's tits off to make sure kids fulfil their potential.
     
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    Sorry about that...
     
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    About what?
     
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    Its
     
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