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The 25 from 31 (at the moment)

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  1. Oldsparkey

    Oldsparkey Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Pick your 6 players to play no part in our Premier League games until the New Year at the earliest. Tough choice for Malky, or is it obvious?

    Keepers

    Marshall
    Lewis
    Moore

    Defenders

    McNaughton
    Taylor
    Hudson
    Turner
    Caulker
    Connolly
    Brayford
    Lappin
    John

    Midfielders

    Kiss
    Whittingham
    Cowie
    Conway
    Kim
    Medel
    Noone
    Gunnarsson
    Mutch
    Harris
    Ralls

    Forwards

    Velikonja
    Smith
    Gestede
    Mason
    Maynard
    Campbell
    Bellamy
    Cornelius
     
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  2. whoops

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    Lappin, McNaughton (controversial), Kiss, Cowie, Velikonja and Smith.
     
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  3. Hilts24

    Hilts24 Well-Known Member

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    Kiss , Velikonja , Lappin , Lewis.
     
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  4. lateboy87

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    Remember u20 players dont need to be registered so Declan John Joe Ralls Harris and Cornelius ain't counted in the 25man squad ;)
     
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  5. EldonBluebird

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    Any of those under 21 dont have to be included in the 25 i thought or am i wrong <doh>
     
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  6. Oldsparkey

    Oldsparkey Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Good point Lateboy! <ok>

    Maybe Malky hasn't finished yet though?
     
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  7. EldonBluebird

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    <cheers>
    Im not as stupid as i thought
     
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  8. ccfcremotesupport

    ccfcremotesupport Well-Known Member

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    If you're talking about squad size, we only need to lose 2. John, Ralls, Harris and Cornelius are under 21, so Velikonja and Kiss.

    If I had to add others, Harris, Lappin, Cowie and Smith.
     
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  9. EldonBluebird

    EldonBluebird Active Member

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    Can see some going out on Loan and a couple being sold, Dont believe we have finished adding to the squad yet !!!
     
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  10. taffthefish

    taffthefish Well-Known Member

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    Hmm, not so easy but here you go Sparks.
    Lewis, McNaughton, Lappin, Harris, Velikonja, Gestede.
     
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  11. EldonBluebird

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    Harris is only 20 guys, he will get some game time for us this year <ok>
     
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  12. lateboy87

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    I think it's anyone who is age 20 or younger before the turn of the new year don't have to be registered so is there still 20 this year they are automatically register and not included in the 25 man squad

    Obviously Declan John and Joe Ralls are fine but I would have to look up the other 2s birthdays
     
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  13. ccfcremotesupport

    ccfcremotesupport Well-Known Member

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    We need to register 3 keepers, if one gets injured you still need one on the bench and Gestede (rightly or wrongly) seems to be MMs plan B and the only other 'lump' besides Cornelius.
    'tis a tough one.
     
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  14. taffthefish

    taffthefish Well-Known Member

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    Bum, need to rethink, tis a bit difficult this one and I have to take Harris out of the equation.
     
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  15. lateboy87

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    Smith Velikonja Lappin to be sold right now, then loan out Ralls and Kiss with recall clauses they need game time in a competitive league!

    Obv change if we bring another 2-3 players in, if rumours are right and we are getting Monero them I can see Conway going too and hopefully we can get another CM like Livermoore on loan or something and sell Cowie

    I would of loaned out Harris but it seems he's had a stormer this pre season and hopeful staying injury free we can see the potential Malky obviously sees in him!
     
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    Wasn't a dig Taff just highlighting my thought process and the complexity of sorting this out.

    It's at times like this a manager earns his corn.

    I suppose the obvious approach is to go for 2 players for every position (22), a 3rd keeper (23), a couple of flexible players (25) and a couple youngsters.

    We have a number of players that are very similar but can float about (Bellamy, Smith, Conway) and I suppose the middle 3 can be fluid perming any 3 from a big pool.

    Too difficult for a Sunday morning.
     
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  17. hampshire Blue

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    I would leave out Lappin, Kiss and Velinkonja. We have a few younger players now who could supplement the squad for odd games if we hit a short term injury crisis.

    Still think we will unload a couple later this month.
     
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  19. BluefromBridgend

    BluefromBridgend Well-Known Member

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    These are the players we have registered with the Prem so far: -

    Craig Bellamy 2000/01 2013/14 Active
    Kim Bo-Kyung 2012/13 2013/14 Active
    John Brayford 2013/14 2013/14 Not Active
    Fraizer Campbell 2007/08 2013/14 Active
    Steven Caulker 2009/10 2013/14 Active
    Matthew Connolly 2005/06 2013/14 Active
    Craig Conway 2011/12 2013/14 Active
    Andreas Cornelius 2013/14 2013/14 Active
    Don Cowie 2011/12 2013/14 Active
    Rudy Gestede 2011/12 2013/14 Active
    Aron Gunnarsson 2011/12 2013/14 Active
    Kadeem Harris 2011/12 2013/14 Active
    Mark Hudson 2000/01 2013/14 Active
    Declan John 2012/13 2013/14 Active
    Filip Kiss 2011/12 2013/14 Active
    Simon Lappin 2002/03 2013/14 Active
    Joe Lewis 2003/04 2013/14 Active
    David Marshall 2009/10 2013/14 Active
    Joe Mason 2011/12 2013/14 Active
    Nicky Maynard 2011/12 2013/14 Active
    Kevin McNaughton 2002/03 2013/14 Active
    Gary Medel 2013/14 2013/14 Not Active
    Simon Moore 2013/14 2013/14 Not Active
    Jordon Mutch 2007/08 2013/14 Active
    Craig Noone 2012/13 2013/14 Active
    Ben Nugent 2012/13 2013/14 Active
    Tommy O'Sullivan 2012/13 2013/14 Active
    Adedeji Oshilaja 2011/12 2013/14 Active
    Joe Ralls 2011/12 2013/14 Active
    Dave Richards 2013/14 2013/14 Not Active
    Tommy Smith 2006/07 2013/14 Active
    Andrew Taylor 2004/05 2013/14 Active
    Ben Turner 2011/12 2013/14 Active
    Etien Velikonja 2012/13 2013/14 Active
    Peter Whittingham 2002/03 2013/14 Active

    35 in total including Medel. Recent signings shown as not active as Prem records not fully up to date. The only other not active is Dave Richards - isn't he a young keeper?

    A bit of research needed to work out who is home grown and who is under 21. Don't have time to that at present.
     
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  20. lateboy87

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    8 home grown players doesn't mean they got to be at our club for three seasons as long as they've played 3 seasons for any team in the English leagues! So Mason is a home grown player as he played for plymouth. if the player is still 20 before the 01.01.14 they don't have to be included in the 25 man squad

    obviously the 1st of September isn't right this season as the transfer window doesn't close till 2nd
     
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