Just watched the FLS highlights again. No way was it a penalty. McShane ran into the back of Faye shoving his arm slightly forward. The ball deflected off someone in front of Faye and hit his arm. Poor sod never had a chance. ****ing soft handballs nowadays. Anyway **** em!! Is that ****ing swearing software fixed yet?
How dare you disgrace the name of our father Paul McShane. I call blasphemy. Have this man hung at once...
I'd say it was Prozzy's fault, first for missing the penalty (it was a reasonable penalty to be fair) but then for flicking it into the box for Cardiff
It was a ****ing ludicrous decision. I actually don't think I've sworn out loud and as much as I did when that penalty was given ever before in my life, ever! Thank **** it was meaningless in the end.
Surprisingly I think he had to give it. I don't know the exact ruling but people always talk about 'intent' with handballs. That's missing the point for me. Who deliberately handles the ball? It's very rare. It should be more about whether the player has gained an advantage. Faye played the ball with his arm. He didn't just touch it, he actually played it from dropping dangerously by his side to dropping in front of him and easily clearable. Clear advantage gained by accidental use of the hand. Clear penalty for me. Didn't think that at the time though. We shouldn't have missed the pen and should have reacted better to having missed it but I don't give a single **** about any of that.
I think it's the movement of the arm that made it a penalty. It moved towards the ball, and whether intentonal or not, it had to be given because it took it away from our goal. Just unlucky for Faye really because there wasn't much he could do. The movement of the ball was dodgy within a crowded penalty area. Shame as well, because you can see how gutted Faye was. Especially when he's been playing so well for us over the course of the Season.
All I can say is thank **** it didn't matter! I just cannot imagine how sick we'd all be feeling if Watford had won after that decision.
It was a very harsh decision looking at the ball come off a head onto a thigh and travel 2-3 feet onto Faye's arm. He didn't have a hope of getting his arm out of the way. I think it was (regardless of the final outcome) a ridiculously soft decision to give. Bruce was raging when the final whistle went, you can see him shout at the ref, then pursue him down he tunnel. Steve Bruce our best ever manager?
For me the handball was harsh but play should have been stopped seconds earlier as the throw-in only beat the first man due to a push in the back.
Roll out the PL referees next season (although I thought the chap on Sat did a good job), Webb, Halsey, Atkinson, Clattenburg, Dowd et al....I'm particularily looking forward to seeing that Charn Masey running the line, they were talking about her on MOTD2 last night and they reckon she gets NOTHING wrong... She's a machine apparently?
If I remember rightly it wasn't a clear goal scoring opportunity for Meyler. The ball was up in the air and the keeper going up for it. Meyler couldn't win the ball cleanly so the challenge on him was just an ordinary foul. It was the kind of incident where normally the penalty isn't given and then all the pundits try to justify it by saying he wasn't in control of the ball so it's not a pen and we get all pissed off about it because it shouldn't matter when you're fouled.
A goalscoring opportunity wasn't denied so in my opinion it wasn't a red. The real reason though will have been that he was unsure about giving the penalty and didn't want to go all out and send him off for something so marginal, especially after sending another player off.
A pal who saw the Sky coverage says the foul on Brady as he ran into the box (sandwiched bertween two defenders) was also a clear penalty. Also, there wasn't any argument when the ball ricocheted into the Cardiff goal in the first half so I assume that there was a clear infringement? I was less impressed with the ref though - he was typically inconsistent when he booked Elmo but then ignored several similar or worse challenges from Cardiff players. Great day though! City certainly deserved a win on the overall balance of play.