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Technically Gifted Players the way Forward from former Spurs Great Ossie Ardiles

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  1. Kaiser

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    28 June 2013-PA Sport

    'I say you want a revolution' ... Ossie Ardiles has ideas for English football (Getty Images)
    Former Tottenham midfielder Ossie Ardiles says English football is in a "bad state" and must embrace revolutionary changes.
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    Ardiles, part of Argentina's 1978 World Cup-winning squad, believes England's shortcomings on the biggest stage will continue for as long as the country persists with a top league that promotes foreign stars ahead of home-grown talent.

    "England is in a bad state. You are not going to win the World Cup for 20 or 30 years," the 60-year-old said. "You have the best league in the world but it is because you have players from all over the world.

    "There are no home-grown players and there is little chance of them coming through.

    "You need a revolution."

    Ardiles believes much of the problem lies with grassroots coaching methods.

    He said: "It is because what they are teaching the young is not right. It is a big emphasis on winning, being tough, jumping, being an athlete, strong, fit and quick.

    "But it should not be like that. The number-one thing is England should be striving to have 11 masters of the ball.

    "There are certain players right now, I won't name names, in the national team of England, the control they have of the ball is quite poor. It is quite embarrassing, really. And they are playing for England."

    The division of powers between the Football Association and the Premier League is another area of concern for Ardiles.

    "This is part of the problem in England," he said. "Here you have the FA and the Football League and the Premier League.

    "In any other country it is one entity – the Argentinian FA, the Brazilian FA, the French FA. They dictate what happens in their Premier League and what happens in their national team.

    "Here the Premier League has nothing to do with the national team so the interests are completely different and that is a big thing."
     
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  2. Downthe36

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    Ossie Ardiles gets it...but no one will listen.
     
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    ...now where's my soap box...
     
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    Yep. Pretty much sums things up.
     
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  5. Saints by name, Saints by nature

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    Why do hardly any English players play abroad? I think if more players were willing to play regularly in the top leagues abroad we may improve and have players with more differentiated playing styles.
     
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    Michael Mancienne has played very well for Hamburger and hasn't got an England call up. I think this might be mainly why. Players don't want to go abroad incase they get ignored completely like Mancienne has so far. Barton's played very well for Marseille too to be fair to the twat.
     
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  7. Archers Road

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    Spot on Ossie. Give that man a development role with the FA.

    Yeah, that'll happen.
     
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    It needs a radical change like that, won't happen though, too many dinosaurs.
     
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  9. fatletiss

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    I'd put Glen Hoddle in charge of youth development
     
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    As evidenced by some of this
     
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    True, he seems a lot less likely to drop a clanger these days as well. I think he ought to at least be Under - 21 coach.

    As an aside, I got involved with youth coaching once and lasted 5-6 weeks before I chucked it in. No one wanted to hear any fresh ideas, and it was all about winning the game that weekend, not about how a kid might actually develop long term, absolutely infuriating.
     
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    Not enough in my book. Make him in charge of everything bellow the senior squad, including youth development and grass roots. He is soooooooo right. We don't develop players technically and that is the number one thing that holds us back as a national team.
     
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  13. Saints by name, Saints by nature

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    I think this perception needs to change, Owen Hargreaves wasn't a favourite with the fans originally because of where he came from and played, but was one of our best players at World Cup 2006.

    Personally I'd give the whole of the youth side of the international team over to Dario Gradi, his Crewe is probably the only club with an academy that could match (or surpass) ours at this moment. I believe they even fielded an entire team made up of academy graduates, and are likely to sell one of their latest prospects for a million. He'd have to be given full control though, but that would never happen.
     
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    Oh yes, Dario Gradi and Hoddle: dream team. That'd be brilliant.

    Downthe36, this season my team are coming under 13s. I've had the same boys for 5 years and previously this has been mini-soccer where each boy plays half of every half, ever game. I have lost 5 boys for next season which is our first at 11 a side because parents didn't agree with what I had done or they have joined teams to win things. One child's parents even asked me if I could play a game so there son could assess how good the new players joining would be before deciding if he'd stay. I said no and he left.

    I love Hoddle's use of the phrase "master the ball" as that as what English players can not do. At Arsenal, Wnger has the team doing keep-ups every day.
     
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    The 2nd most naturally gifted English ball player I've ever seen (after the big nosed bloke from Guernsey). And he actually did very little wrong as England manager.
     
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    I put Hoddle, Gascoigne and Le Tiss in the top three gifted English ball players (not in that order)
     
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  17. PompeyLapras

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    If there's a revolution, can we start with overthrowing the FA?
     
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  18. Archers Road

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    Yep. Let's have a guillotine at Lancaster Gate. If we're not using them all in the City of London.
     
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    I dunno if that was sarcastic, but if not, I agree!
     
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  20. Clem Fandango

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    Apart from leave Le Tiss out of the side.
     
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