[table] [tr] [th]Sebastian Vettel [/th] [th]Red Bull[/th] [th]Mark Webber[/th] [/tr] [tr] [td]122 (49.59%)[/td] [td]Points [/td] [td]124 (50.41%)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]6[/td] [td]Qualifying [/td] [td]5[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]496[/td] [td]Laps spent ahead[/td] [td]165[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr] [tr] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr] [/table] [table] [tr] [th]Lewis Hamilton[/th] [th]Mclaren[/th] [th]Jenson Button[/th] [/tr] [tr] [td]117 (61%)[/td] [td]Points [/td] [td]76 (39%)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]9[/td] [td]Qualifying [/td] [td]2[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]424[/td] [td]Laps spent ahead[/td] [td]238[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr] [tr] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr] [/table] [table] [tr] [th]Kimi Raikkonen [/th] [th]Lotus[/th] [th]Romain Grosjean[/th] [/tr] [tr] [td]116 (60%)[/td] [td]Points [/td] [td]76 (40%)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]4[/td] [td]Qualifying [/td] [td]7[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]310[/td] [td]Laps spent ahead[/td] [td]170[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr] [tr] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr] [/table] [table] [tr] [th]Fernando Alonso[/th] [th] Ferrari[/th] [th]Felipe Massa[/th] [/tr] [tr] [td]164 (87%)[/td] [td]Points[/td] [td]25 (13%)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]11 [/td] [td]Qualifying[/td] [td]0[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]657[/td] [td]Laps spent ahead[/td] [td]15[/td] [/tr] [/table] [table] [tr] [th]Nico Rosberg[/th] [th]Mercedes[/th] [th]Michael Schumacher [/th] [/tr] [tr] [td]77 (73%)[/td] [td]Points[/td] [td]29 (27%)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]7 [/td] [td]Qualifying[/td] [td]4[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]308[/td] [td]Laps spent ahead[/td] [td]179[/td] [/tr] [/table] [table] [tr] [th]Sergio Perez[/th] [th]Sauber[/th] [th]Kamui Kobayashi [/th] [/tr] [tr] [td]47 (59%)[/td] [td]Points[/td] [td]33 (41%)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]5 [/td] [td]Qualifying[/td] [td]6[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]313[/td] [td]Laps spent ahead[/td] [td]194[/td] [/tr] [/table] [table] [tr] [th]Pastor Maldonado[/th] [th]Williams[/th] [th]Bruno Senna[/th] [/tr] [tr] [td]29 (55%)[/td] [td]Points[/td] [td]24 (45%)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]8 [/td] [td]Qualifying[/td] [td]3[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]293[/td] [td]Laps spent ahead[/td] [td]218[/td] [/tr] [/table] [table] [tr] [th]Paul Di Resta [/th] [th]Force India [/th] [th]Nico Hulkenberg [/th] [/tr] [tr] [td]27 (59%)[/td] [td]Points[/td] [td]19 (41%)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]6[/td] [td]Qualifying[/td] [td]5[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]312[/td] [td]Laps spent ahead[/td] [td]264[/td] [/tr] [/table] [table] [tr] [th]Jean-Eric Vergne[/th] [th]Toro Rosso[/th] [th]Daniel Ricciardo[/th] [/tr] [tr] [td]4 (66.66%)[/td] [td]Points[/td] [td]2 (33.33%)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]2[/td] [td]Qualifying[/td] [td]9[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]321[/td] [td]Laps spent ahead[/td] [td]317[/td] [/tr] [/table] [table] [tr] [th]Heikki Kovalainen [/th] [th]Caterham[/th] [th]Vitaly Petrov[/th] [/tr] [tr] [td]9[/td] [td]Qualifying[/td] [td]2[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]307[/td] [td]Laps spent ahead [/td] [td]229[/td] [/tr] [/table] [table] [tr] [th]Timo Glock[/th] [th]Marussia[/th] [th]Charles Pic[/th] [/tr] [tr] [td]6[/td] [td]Qualifying[/td] [td]4[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]308[/td] [td]Laps spent ahead [/td] [td]214[/td] [/tr] [/table] [table] [tr] [th]Pedro de la Rosa[/th] [th]HRT[/th] [th]Narain Karthikeyan[/th] [/tr] [tr] [td]11[/td] [td]Qualifying[/td] [td]0[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]370[/td] [td]Laps spent ahead [/td] [td]67[/td] [/tr] [/table]
it makes you wonder if HRT would be ahead of Marussia with a decent driver if the test driver is so dominant. Surely they gotta give someone who can drive a turn in the second car, although that said he isn't the worst performing team-mate, he has 4 1/2 times as many laps in the lead compared to Massa. (ok, Massa has Alonso, but still...)
I think those stats tell us everything about Massa's non performances. I'm sorry Felipe, i like you, but you aren't good enough for Ferrari anymore. Put De La Rosa in the 2nd car, he's easily the 2nd most dominant driver in F1
Sauber Sergio Perez Kamui Kobayashi Qualifying 5 5 I don't rememeber either of them missing qualifying? Some interesting stats, and they tell a different story than what I imaged. i.e. The Toro Rosso, I thought that Vergne was being destroyed, but he has more points
Ha! Not a chance! (Although an 'ex' was/is a journalist). But my basic arithmetic is still intact. 100% of anything measurable (this excludes quantum theory), when divided into two or more chunks, can never amount to more than its total: which will forever be 100%!
Kamui is actually on 6, so fixed ! . And even though Vergne is being out qualified, he has led more laps.
[TABLE="class: cms_table"] [TR] [TD] [/TD] [TD]Schumacher 29pts (27%), Rosberg 77pts (73%); so not very evenly matched. [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]Schumacher 4 times on top in qualifying to Rosberg's 7; so not very evenly matched. [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]Schumacher 179 laps spent ahead to Rosberg's 308; so not very evenly matched. So… Not very evenly matched. [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] And, as I think we both agree, Rosberg's nothing special compared with the top drivers presently in F1. Personally, I couldn't give a monkey's; but it seems statistics are painful when you pay so much attention to them, doesn't it?
You have to reply to everything I post? 1)Schumacher is lower on points mostly because of the disastrous reliability of the Mercedes on the right hand side of the garage, only twice has Schumacher ruined his own race this season, which is more than can be said for other drivers, Spain and Hungary (where he cocked up). Valencia and Monaco, where he shined. 2) Lets pay attention to the statistics and read further into them as you mentioned, Rosberg was **** in Qualifying in the start of the year. Schumacher capitalised mostly in Australia and Malaysia (wet). Rosberg hit back in China, and in Bahrain, Michael was hit by DRS issues, a poor 8th and 9th in Spain and Canada. In Monaco (a driver track), he gained a pole position. So for raw pace, excluding penalties, he showed he still has it. And what a better place to show it than the tight confines of the principality eh Cosicave? In Britain in the rain, as we know the crap aspects of the car were nullified and driver pace/talent can be expressed through extreme conditions, Schumacher p3 and the same applies for Germany, in the race this was backed by the fall-back of the car into the hands of the faster cars (in dry conditions). In Hungary, things went wrong on the driver side, I am not so much of a fan-boy that I will make an excuse for every instance, but here he was appaling. 3) As for the laps spent ahead, that are a mix of car reliability and driver skill, as reliability has played more of a part in his 21st season in the F1 world, we can explain why Schumacher has suffered whereas Rosberg has been given the right tools to do well. -Rosberg is not doing to well this part of the season no, in the rain he is pretty poor also, but when given a ****-box, how can he show that he can win? -At the moment Mercedes are letting down both their drivers, and don't deserve their patience, I am surprised with the copious amount of money they have wasted, the bosses in Stuttgart have not yet closed them down for good. Until Mercedes provide a car as consistent as Lotus/Ferrari/RB/Mclaren, we will never get a clear idea about how they are doing. The fact is, the invention of the DDRS, is probably the catalyst for the downward spiral as Gary Anderson has written about below. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/19064856 So as Quali is the nearly faultless in showing us the raw pace in both drivers, 6-5 is not too bad. I cannot really make assumptions with the race statistics, as having one car with worse reliability then a HRT is not helpful.
Where do you get this 6-5 nonsense? It clearly says 7-4 to Rosberg. Considering Schumacher led that 2-0 due to Rosberg cracking at the start (understandable, first season in a good enough car for wins when everyone said he was brilliant before) so in the last 9 qualifying sessions its 7-2 to Rosberg. Well done Schumacher....
EMSC: All I've read of your above post is this, its first line: It seems you would prefer me not to reply, so firstly, I owe you an apology for responding to comments in a forum and will try to remember to deal with you as a special case*. It would seem wrong in reading beyond your opening line because to do so may illicit logical responses in their own right. I will therefore oblige you by not doing so, and simply agree with every word I was persuaded not to read. Whatever you wrote: you're probably right! I genuinely hope it improves your day. Cheers © *P.S. I don't mind you replying; but please do not feel obliged to do so. You are at liberty to ignore everything I say, just as I have skipped almost all of whatever it was you didn't want me to reply to..
Nothing personal? You write "You have to reply to everything I post?" and then tell me it's nothing personal? Perhaps I need to know what makes something 'personal'… P.S. Please do not read any of this post. Then you'll not feel the need to reply. Nothing personal though; I'm simply responding to an impersonal comment that I misunderstood as being directed solely at me, and me alone. Further apologies, personally for you. Cheers. ©
