Mash-Up of Tweets posted by @Smudge1962 - Paul Smith - Chief football reporter for the Sunday Mirror: The Mittal's won't budge an inch on their final offer while E&B (Dastardly and Muttley) refuse to accept a penny less than £100m Unlikely DJ Campbell is joining QPR. I know his agent very well and he claims he's more likely to move somewhere else. The asking price is £100m. The Mittal's value the club at around £60m maximum which is a more realistic value. They are businessman. The moral issues relating to the well being of the club don't come into it. In respect of the Mittal's, they are being realistic in their valuation of the club where as E&B are just being greedy But to be honest I don't think E&B care. They know with a capacity of just 18,000 they can hike ticket prices At the moment NW hands are completely tied in the transfer market. it appears E&B are not putting any money into the club. I'm assured talk of Russian interest is complete garbage. E&B are still demanding £100m and the Mittal's refuse to be held to ransom Not good news on the QPR front. The Mittal's have made a slightly improved offer to buy the club which has been rejected.
morning gentlemen i know i have had my differences with some of you in the past but what the goons are doing to the Q.P.R FANS IS DISGUSTING. colin did a superb job of getting you to the prem he now deserves to be backed.I hope you have a good season with the backing all good fans deserve.
Thanks bluebird its nice to know other clubs care these type of owners are ruining football for everybody, not just QPR. Can you please sign our petition and maybe post it on your page http://www.petitiononline.co.uk/petition/disgusted-at-qpr-board/2902
We can't sign anyone, why would anyone want to join a circus? Edit, should read anyone with options, I'm sure we'll end up with some drek.
Do we not now think that the following is the correct scenario - Flav & Bern want to sell Mittals only game in town interested Flav & Bern want £100m Mittals will only pay £60m There is a 'no new signings' policy until a deal is done - they won't get the spend back NW holding out for the sale to go through but maintaining radio silence in the meantime NW continues to line up players hoping for takeover to go through but can't complete on them Sponsor deal on hold pending who wrests control New kit can't be marketed due to above I would say the ball is firmly in Falv&Berns court as they could have a diminishing value asset but they are such hard nosed businessmen that they won't be pressured into chopping the price at this stage. So for me its just a wait and see policy whilst the clock ticks down to kick off. If Mittals come through and deal sorted I can see a rush to sign new talent and a tricky start whilst players integrated into team If deal founders then I expect Flav&Bern to realise they need to sign 1 or 2 players to appease fanbase & NW but expect bosmans / frees / loans etc Roll up roll up for the rollercoaster lads its about to leave the station!!
If( a big word that!) Mittal has upped his offer from £50m last time to £60m this time and the other crowd have not budged from reported SP of £100m, you would have to say that they are not even on the same planet as far as doing a deal is concerned. Making it personal, if I offered twice for a house and the vendors were still holding out for the original asking price I would take it that they were telling me to F off; but what would I know about these high rollers?
am i concerned of course i am its the lack of whats going on from offish, this time last year we had all our new players in for pre-season baring two & started gelling together as a team, this year nothing if when they do come it will take a while to bed in, where as last year we got off to a flyer, this season with late arrivals if & when we could have a disastraus start & giving b/e the outcome they want to get rid of warnock, but really hope not. whats with this takeover nothing in press or radio & listening to paul finney on 94.9 no mention of it & he was like the rest of us disgusted warnock is getting no backing & losing out on players, i've renewd s/t but for first time ever i'm thinking of cancelling, i was so upbeat for pre-season transfers etc but as yet nothing has excited me, rant over.
when you take the offer prices into effect, factor in the debt (somewhere between 35 and 40 mill has been suggested. So the Mittal bid is pretty much there, it may be a case of explaining to F&B how the numbers are made up. Of course, if the Mittals are already covering the debt, and the cash sum is only something like £25 million, then it's no wonder Bernie's giving them short shrift. Maybe we can add something here. Someone tell Flab that if he doesn't sell, then we'll make him ride shotgun with James May again.....
A stalemate between the Goons and the Mittals is the worst of all worlds for the club - the one thing that's not factored into all this is the fans -they can let their views be known once the season starts, to make LR the BOUTIQUE FROM HELL! The Goons won't come if they're hated - they certainly won't risk bringing their jet set friends if they get a whole load of abuse either side of the executive box and Indian flags flying around ground. The sooner we take the shine of their ownership for them, the better...
Absolutely spot on Goldhawk. For the Goons, the ownership of a football club is mostly about massaging their huge egos hence this 'boutique' nonsense that Flabio bangs on about. Once the fans openly turn on them in front of their invited guests and demonstrate support for the Mittals, they'll want out sharpish. Remember, live matches will be beamed worldwide so any noisy protests or waving of Indian flags could seriously embarrass them and their other business interests. Unfortunately it means we're probably going to have start the season under their reckless stewardship before fans can really demonstrate their anger.
Makes you wonder why Mittal only offered £30m in the first place even though promotion hadn't been agreed it was an odds on certainty at that time.
100% agree with Goldhawk. Would only add that the value in the green and white scarves (our original colours) and Indian flags is in getting the attention of the cameras and highlighting how we the fans have / are being mugged of by this pair. They face infamy for dragging us down in this way. We could end up with a lot of sympathy from other fans - and who knows, maybe have a season of being everyone's favourite second club! I'm looking at the nightmare scenario: current team without Taarabt and possibly no manager. With that side, fiercely backed by passionately angry fans, with every goal a massive event, we could be in for one hell of a ride back to the Championship - dignity intact and huge pressure on these crude, cynical and destructive owners. Interesting times ahead I have no doubt.
Do you really think that these people give a toss about who is shouting what or waving what? There has certainly been an element of Mittal cultivating support from the fans. (Talk of £50m for transfers, etc). Talk is cheap. In my view Ecclestone and Briatore are more likely to dig their heals in and only sell to Mittal if he pays them, and pays them well - even over the odds. They will not want to sell to Mittal if they believe that he has been manipulating the fans against (or more against) the (not so) dynamic duo in order to get the club on the cheap ... which is exactly what Mittal was doing when he offered £30m. Protests, in whatever form, may make those who are disgruntled feel better - feel that they are doing something - but in the end won't change anything. Ecclestone and Briatore saved the club and have pissed around ever since. I believe that Mittal could have taken control of the club had he done it differently, but the way he went about it has changed things. It is no longer just about "business", but includes the personalities and who thinks who is trying to do what to who.
Agree with Eamon - largely. Let's look at it the other way round. What are the chances of Rs fans attending games and NOT showing their anger and frustrations?
When Briatore made himself unpopular after the manager-revolving door policy, he disappeared. He'd been coming to every game before that, and then he disappeared and we didn't see him again until the end months of last season. He does not have the skin of a rhino. Unpopularity will impact him, just as it impacted Ashley at Newcastle (Ashley stayed because the club suddenly became successful). Ecclestone's more of an unknown quantity, but will he really want to hold onto a club where he is unwelcome with the fans? - at his age, he doesn't need the hassle. Fans can, at the very least, encourage him to move on to his next commercial venture...
Eamon Holmes, you are spot on mate.....Bernie and Flavio dont give a damn about protests, people turning up outside LR wont make a blind bit of difference, nor will calling him a wa**er on a Saturday afternoon. Remember they are businessmen not politicians fighting for popularity and all they care about is their wallets and not the man who pays £20 (gotta laugh at that comment) on a Saturday. Stalemate is the recipe of the summer between these two and regardless of the outcome, if it isnt sorted soon then next season is ruined before it kicks off.
I agree with Nick......I mean Eamon! You're deluded if you think booing Flav and waving a green & white scarf is going to make them sell the club for (reportedly) £40m less than they want??? This is about money and power not about the fans. If I stood to make / lose £40m I might go a little deaf to the protests and decide to watch the Bolton game from my superyacht off the Costa d'Esmeralda........ Waving Indian flags won't do anything. They only care about money. If no-one had renewed their season tickets and n-one turned up and bought a pie then they might be slighly inconvinienced but a bit of chanting? Water off a fat Italian duck's back...
signed your petition hope all goes well and the goons are soon gone.will spread the word to all ccfc fans.
Agree and disagree Frank, but part of it for them was to have a nice day out in the 'boutique' with their rich chums. I can't see them enjoying it much sitting in the S.A stand, the abuse is going to be heavy, the way this is going.
