However I do find attempts to bleep out swear words on tv in programmes that appear after the watershed to be themselves obscene!
Well there you go. A man who is offended by swearing but believes men and women should behave differently, a stance that most would find offensive. Your idea of utopia sounds like the dark ages to me
Alternatively you could argue why is it not acceptable anywhere. Language evolves over time and there have always been crude and vulgar slang terms, so who decides what is a swear word and what is not. Granted I find it banal when people swear an awful lot but trying to sanitise our language is just like the whipped up outrage whenever someone says anything outside the normal Gaussian distribution of view points.
I think you hit the nail on the head, Thai, (or your thumb) with your hammer example. One of the main functions of swearing must simply be cathartic - getting the emotion out - and sometimes nothing else will do. For example, I rarely swear in daily life but put me in front of the TV on Saturday night and Norwich are playing, and within minutes I am screaming abuse at the referee and/or the opposition players. I also think swearing used to be (and perhaps still is) a male bonding thing, which is another reason it happens so much at football grounds. There's still this feeling (which you share judging by another of your posts on this thread) that swearing is a masculine thing and something that nice girls don't do. Personally I think that's daft - a word is just a word - but inside I have to admit I cringe if I hear people swearing around young children. Attitudes have changed, though. I remember the first time I swore in my house, my father told me to pack my bags and leave. Eventually my mother softened him, and I had to apologise. Hard to imagine that Victorian never-darken-my-door stuff nowadays.
Where did I ever say I was offended by it? I don't swear myself as a rule as I can control myself pretty well, but I still think it very odd that someone actually needs to write it to make a point or construct a written sentence, that is not the same as being offended.There are times when I do get fed up with an individual who feels the need to swear nearly every other word (I have come across one or two like this) and really do not see why they need to and find that quite offensive tbh but the odd bit here and there I generally do not have an issue with it. My idea of utopia is just that - utopia. Of course I do not expect it and as I say something close is good with me. Perhaps you just have never met any girls/women with any class about them? I have, many and none of them have the urge to say "****" unless they are in the bedroom. My Thai wife does not swear (as far as I know) and does manage to conduct herself with dignity at all times (well, until she has had a few drinks and goes a little crazy). So maybe it is has become cultural thing as society has changed in what seems to be most of the world. My wife has asked me, or made comment about, the need for visitors to the hotel where she works, about the frequent use of the word "****" by Englishmen, Australians, Americans, Canadians, Nowegiens, Swedes etc. She cannot believe just how often it is used, and so openly - in her words they show no respect for other people.
You are equating not swearing with having class, and you also think that to swear is not to be in control. I don't think I should say more than that really Thai. Your views on women are incredibly offensive to me, good luck to you.
Had I said women should be seen and not heard I would could understand that statement but to ask for a woman or man come to that to show a level of restraint - is that really asking too much? Clearly many people, yourself certainly included seem to think so, so I will ask some more questions of everyone everyone.... Is "****ing cold" colder than really cold? Is "****ing big" bigger than really big? The list of examples is of course endless Why do you swear?
As I understand it, 'Gaussian distribution' and 'normal distribution' are syonymous but I genuinely enjoyed seeing the word Gaussian this early hah
Not least Thai, have you insinuated that my current partner, previous partners, female friends and my mother, who I have already mentioned swears, have no class. And worse still you distinguish between men and women, although you appear to now be backtracking on that one.
There are many normal distributions and I thought that Gaussian was a standard normal distribution but from the wikipedia entry I believe I may be mistaken.
I was asked specifically about women so I answered. I was never asked specifically about men but if you want to know what I think then it is pretty much the same, why is there a need for it in normal daily language? Why do you swear? Answer that for me, nail your colours to the mast on this one. Why is it okay to swear with your parents but not your kids? Is it because it is an adult thing? There must be be an element of anti-sociability about it if you keep it away from the kids (as you do with murder etc) and therefor not a social thing. That's all I am trying to get someone to explain to me and as you seem to be quite anti my views, how about justifying your views instead of just bashing mine?
Looking more deeply - I see that the normal distribution is a sub-form of Gaussian, so the original poster was correct to use both... I knew there was something not quite right!
This is the closest you have come to explaining anything about the question asked I can only assume then in your case it's an expression of your humanity. Correct?
I can see this is going to go nowhere and the bottom line is people do it because they can and want to
I will stress once again, I am not offended by it in the slightest, although most on here will agree the C word oversteps the mark whatever present day levels of social acceptance are, but see little need for it as indicated on the examples above that went ignored. In case you feel confused Yorkie, I dislike Ipswich Town, Liverpool and lots of other things. They do not however offend me by their existence or appearance in every day life
