I personally think its a disgrace, whatever your political views its about showing respect to ALL people who gave their lives in conflict and war over the years. If i was a sunderland fan i would be very upset with this guy's attitude and to me he gets the choice of that decision because millions died in the name of freedom,what a prick of a guy. The amount of people that give down their lives right or wrong ,just so some average football player can earn millions and have the freedom to do exactly what pleases him really does make my blood boil, i hope sunderland fans make their feelings known to him. What do my fellow Jacks think about it and how would you react if oneof our players did the same thing and brought bad publicity to the club ??
Very disappointed in the lad. My dad skippered one of the first waves of landing crafts into Gold beach, he was only 20 at the time. Luck for me he came back alive and many didn't. He told me some horror stories about that day. I might understand if it was a foreign player, but an English one, for shame on the boy.
Neither did oshea Poppies weren't worn on strips for the first 80 years after the war...why the outrage now?
The Sunderland lads are going bananas on their board about this. Total bellend showing no respect at all. I'm proud of all our soldiers past and present who have fought and died in wars for us. Wearing a poppy for Remembrance Day is a tradition in this country and a mark of respect. If he feels that way then he should Fcuk off back to Ireland
Poppies wernt worn on football strips before,that is true, but why would you refuse to wear them now? it is the smallest of gestures isnt it ? why would you really refuse to acknowledge millions of people who gave their lives for freedom.
Because he's an Irish twat Norway that's why. I wonder how much **** this knobhead will have to put up with now from opposition fans up and down the country ? From what I've see his own fans are angry
14 people died from his city 6 from his neighbourhood Maybe he doesn't feel like honouring their killers And let's be honest, it isn't about remembrance anymore, its been politicized and now represents "Respect your armed forces or else" That is what is disgusting
well then dont bother taking the British pound and way of life, just **** off back to the republic I can accept the first world war wasnt about freedom specifically but the point is respect should still be shown to the fallen, who had no real choice in what they had to do or where they were sent.
I wouldnt have a problem supporting Rememberance Day if it carried an anti war message and highlighted the futility of war , that we not only remember people who gave their lives but that we make sure it never happens again. The history books have taught us that war is a brutal waste of human life and never the answer to the problem and if we want to stop it we have to stop supporting the war mongers (and I mean worldwide). Unfortunately a lot of the poppy wearing brigade would be quite happy sending the next batch of young mainly working class men to their deaths- for me these people are hipocrites - how can you honour the dead and still be prepared to perpetate it. Im not sure of the Sunderlands guys reasons - but good on him for sticking to his principles.
22 years in the army and i watch our politicians send our lads to fight in futile wars, not sure where i stand on this, lad obviously has no respect for our soldiers but maybe he is having a dig at our pollys who are too gutless themselves to get out and go to war
Martin o'Niel didn't either , so I'm led to believe, they both have links with Derry so you can work out why they didn't .
I really don't see the problem. It doesn't mean he hates this country or hates the army, just that he won't wear a symbol that covers a conflict that ended the lives of people he may have known or were local to him. If there were an Afghan or Iraqi player in the league who had lost a loved one in a war that included our army then I wouldn't expect him to wear it either. Surely those who fought for the freedom of all of us fought for the right to not do something as much as to do it.
yes he did it was on his suit. he changed into his training top later which didnt carry one. Point is that our soldiers dont have a say in where thay are sent and heve no way of influencing what the politicians decide,they never have.they follow orders and have no choice , they literally are cannon fodder sometimes, its the least somebody can do considering its just one day and some of our people from home and abroad have lost lives,seen friends killed and have came home missing limbs, what political message can some twat of a footballer possible make that superseeds that ?
Yes but its not about the fallen of one country, its about the fallen of all countries. The fact he has earned the right to refuse is not down to him its down to the many that gave their lives for freedom and democracy, so you would think the fact he has the choice would make him realise he only has it because of what those people did in the past. It just shows a lack of respect as far as im concerned , he felt soo strongly that he decides not to wear it but what happened last season and the season before? anybody know ?
As one with a military background and Irish family, I fully respect his decision not to wear the poppy. Imperial Britain has committed many atrocities throughout the world which are not easily erased or forgotten. I wear my poppy with pride and remember, proud to have done my duty.
I'm sorry but this comment sounds like the words of a biggot. Don't you think he's entiled to the freedom of expression that so many good men have fought for over the years? I wear my poppy with pride and always will, but that is my choice and not someone elses. It's interesting that you stiffle and berate the comments and beliefs of others, as many posters who have now left this board will testify. Why can't you just accept alternative views?
There is nothing wrong with having the beleif but respecting the fallen either, why make such a statement about something that is so universially accepted as a rememberence of ALL fallen people who had NO choice in what they were told to fight for? The fact he can say no is only because many many people died to give him that choice, therefore he should show respect by wearing one..if the kid got half a brain! The sunderland fans are not happy with this either, apparently this player is always getting into scrapes and doing the wrong thing. You would think he would just keep his head down and be respectful, the kid sounds like a right cock to me . The choice to wear or not wear is one thing, to show no respect and cause embarassment to a great club like Sunderland while taking money with the Queens head on it and not respecting the fallen from all sides of conflict just smacks of a spoilt stupid prick of a guy, thats my view on it, nobody has any real reason to be that disrespectful in this day and age .
