Let's assume Arsenal really want Suarez - I doubt it highly. But let's assume we are considering buying Suarez. Who would you rather have - along with the fee 40million Suarez vs 25 million Hiquain? Who would fit better?
Posted this on the transfer thread but will save me writing something similar lol, so a good old copy and paste job haha Wasn't perez quoted a few weeks ago saying that if someone came in with a bid of 30 million euros (25 million pounds) that they might as well not bother making contract. This suggests that they are looking for way more than 25 million, that's the reason the HiguaÃn deal has hit the buffers, so if we have to pay close to 35 million, who do you think would be better, suarez or HiguaÃn. Personally I think suarez is the better player, but I've not seen that much of HiguaÃn. And I dont think he is worth more than 25 million. So the question is should we just pay suarez release clause and be done with it, it's a lot of money. The club could be playing the long game here, he will be banned for the first 6 games anyway, so it does not matter much if we get him now or end of aug. If HiguaÃn stays at madrid, its unlikely they will go for suarez, so where else can he go? If he starts making a right fuss at liverpool, or even goes on strike (would it surprise you) or a tevez and not turn up, 30 million might be an attractive offer to Liverpool. It is obviously a risky strategy, but ATM suaraz has nowhere else to go and no one else seems that interested in him, or willing to pay 30 million plus except us.
I'd rather have Higuain than Suarez, regardless of price. I suppose Higuain is the unknown quantity of the two (in English football at least), but his record at Real and Suarez' personality makes the Argentine more appealing.
I think there will be a lot of teams wanting him or,even worse, needing him (or a striker rather): City needs 1-2 strikers Chelsea needs 1-2 strikers Madrid will need 1 striker PSG might need a striker (zlatan might be leaving) All teams with a lot of money. So playing the "waiting" game for Arsenal is not really a good idea as one of the "big boys" WILL get desperate at the end of the transfer window. I dont think Hiquain should cost more than 25million euros - he is not a regular even though he is very good. Sounds like an Wenger deal.....
City are unlikely to buy suarez as their owners are very image conscious, hence the reason they sold baliteli, chelsea possibly, but just look at their board and there is a thread about it and most of them do not want him, plus there is the whole ivanivic bite thing, could be difficult in the dressing room. PSG might but if they buy cavani would they really pay 40 million for another striker, that would be 100 million on 2 players, absolutely crazy if they did. That leaves madrid, I can only see them buying him if they sell hiquain.
A tough call for me, but only because Suarez is a dispicable Human being. Apart from that fact though, I believe that Suarez is the better player and used to the Premier League. I have also seen a lot more of him than Higuain, but his record is better than Higuians I beleieve. There is also the fact that it sends a statement out. Rather than selling our best players, we are buying our rivals best players. So all-in-all for me, Suarez. He is a class act playing football even if he is disgusting at other times.
Seeing as the bite & negro things were blown out of all proportion (by about 10000000%) I would take Suarez in a heartbeat. Yes he is guilty of gamesmanship at times, but so was DB10 and so is the chimp. Would anyone honestly turn down either if they were on offer?
After a couple of seasons with Suarez we could afford to let him go because we would be on top of the world and the likes of Messi would be paying us to sign them up
Suarez is the better player but Higuain is the better striker. Higuain would be cheaper and comes with less baggage. Saying that though I think Suarez would take less time to adapt and if we added him I would say we would have a chance to actually make a title push.
If Suarez wants to leave Liverpool, he is not worth 40M. If Higuain is persuaded to stay, he is worth more than 25M. They would both be good options, I certainly wouldn't turn either of them down, but I don't see anything to indicate that our "Interest" in Suarez is anything more than speculation from the press, based on the problems we are having prising Higuain away from RM, with perhaps a few fishing expeditions at Liverpool, and liberal interpretation of the replies.
He wants to leave England, seeing as he's said he wants to leave England because of the press I don't understand why he'd go to another club in England if that's the case. We hold the cards so he won't go for anything less than £40M.
I don't think where he wants to go affects the price. We negotiate the price with the club. They might not want to sell him to us (and push the price up), because we are a rival, but that has nothing to do with what Suarez wants. We might have to pay Suarez more, or he we might fail to agree personal terms, but either way paying Liverpool more, will not change that.
Selling our best player to a direct rival will effect the price. I reckon we want 40m minimum, if he goes to a PL club after using the excuse about the media being unfair although he brought it all on himself, then we'll ask for 45-50m IMO.
No disrespect intended but I don't see how Liverpool and Arsenal are direct rivals. Liverpool's ambition this season is to try and compete with Arsenal, so what they want is to be our rivals. The reality is Arsenal and Liverpool have not been in direct competition (in the league anyway) since 06/07, that is a very long time ago. It is true that Liverpool hold all the cards, simply because of the length of Suarez's contract, but if he was to kick up a fuss to push a move to Arsenal (unlikely as I imagine his desired location is Madrid) then will Liverpool really be in a position to turn down £40M for Suarez. FSG were happy to let Torres go and he looks like an angel in comparison to the way Suarez has handled himself.
I vote we buy both £35m for Suarez £26m for Higuian and we still have a wad of cash left over .....
Okay not rivals as such, but you are a step up from us but not Chelsea and the two United clubs, but like you say, we want to start to compete with you so why would we sell him to you unless it was for a **** load of cash. Torres was different, cause whilst he wasn't a twat about it, he also done it last minute which resulted in us making a panic buy (I.e Carroll for 35m ) I'll be gutted if he goes to another PL club tbh, especially after everything he has said about the press and everything we've done for him, Evra saga and the bite, and the middle finger to the Fulham fans. I'd like to think he'd either shut his trap and stay another season at least or he'd go abroad where he can't rub it in our faces, but you never know nowadays with footballers do ya mate?.
I completely understand where you are coming from, I think after what happened with RVP last Summer, all Gooners do. But as we saw with RVP last Summer, you really never know with footballers. I think the main difference between the 2 is that RVP only had a year left on his contract which left us in a **** position, Liverpool hold all the cards with Suarez. Lets wait and see but I am more hopeful than I am optimistic.
