Suarez *Evidence*

http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/Discipli...Written Reasons of Regulatory Commission.ashx


Can't complain..


The FA's case, in short, was as follows. In the goalmouth, Mr Evra and Mr Suarez spoke to
each other in Spanish. Mr Evra asked Mr Suarez why he had kicked him, referring to the
foul five minutes previously. Mr Suarez replied "Porque tu eres negro", meaning "Because
you are black". Mr Evra then said to Mr Suarez “say it to me again, I’m going to punch
you". Mr Suarez replied "No hablo con los negros", meaning "I don't speak to blacks". Mr
Evra continued by saying that he now thought he was going to punch Mr Suarez. Mr
Suarez replied "Dale, negro, negro, negro", which meant "okay, blackie, blackie, blackie".
As Mr Suarez said this, he reached out to touch Mr Evra's arm, gesturing at his skin. Mr
Kuyt then intervened. When the referee blew his whistle and called the players over to
him shortly after the exchanges in the goalmouth, Mr Evra said to the referee "ref, ref, he
just called me a f---n black".

EDIT-- Sorry for the misleading title, this is Evras' statement on the matter but not evidence as such, but this is the reason he was charged. In Suarezs' defence;

Mr Suarez denied the Charge. His case, in short, was as follows. He agreed with Mr Evra
that they spoke to each other in Spanish in the goalmouth. When Mr Evra asked why he
had kicked him, Mr Suarez replied that it was a normal foul and shrugged his shoulders.
Mr Evra then said that he was going to kick Mr Suarez, to which Mr Suarez told him to
shut up. As Mr Kuyt was approaching, Mr Suarez touched Mr Evra's left arm in a
pinching style movement. According to Mr Suarez, at no point in the goalmouth did he
use the word "negro". When the referee blew his whistle to stop play, Mr Evra spoke to Mr
Suarez and said (in English) "Don't touch me, South American". Mr Suarez replied "Por
que, negro?". He says that he used the word “negro” in a way with which he was familiar
from his upbringing in Uruguay. In this sense, Mr Suarez claimed, it is used as a noun and
as a friendly form of address to people seen as black or brown-skinned (or even just blackhaired). Thus, it meant "Why, black?" Mr Suarez maintained that when he said "Por que,
negro?" to Mr Evra, it was intended in a conciliatory and friendly way. Mr Suarez said this 6
was the only time that he used the word “negro” in his exchanges with Mr Evra during
the match

 

Clearly Liverpool were right all along. Suarez said nothing wrong and it was all Evra's fault.

Will they continue to wear t-shirts in protest against this injustice?

 

Suarez's defence-

Mr Suarez denied the Charge. His case, in short, was as follows. He agreed with Mr Evra
that they spoke to each other in Spanish in the goalmouth. When Mr Evra asked why he
had kicked him, Mr Suarez replied that it was a normal foul and shrugged his shoulders.
Mr Evra then said that he was going to kick Mr Suarez, to which Mr Suarez told him to
shut up. As Mr Kuyt was approaching, Mr Suarez touched Mr Evra's left arm in a
pinching style movement. According to Mr Suarez, at no point in the goalmouth did he
use the word "negro". When the referee blew his whistle to stop play, Mr Evra spoke to Mr
Suarez and said (in English) "Don't touch me, South American". Mr Suarez replied "Por
que, negro?". He says that he used the word “negro” in a way with which he was familiar
from his upbringing in Uruguay. In this sense, Mr Suarez claimed, it is used as a noun and
as a friendly form of address to people seen as black or brown-skinned (or even just blackhaired). Thus, it meant "Why, black?" Mr Suarez maintained that when he said "Por que,
negro?" to Mr Evra, it was intended in a conciliatory and friendly way. Mr Suarez said this 6
was the only time that he used the word “negro” in his exchanges with Mr Evra during
the match

 

I can't open the file

 

Stupid comment when the OP is anything anything but that.

 

I edited it mate

 

What Suarez said happened.

 

Try clicking on it.

 

For anyone who hasn't seen - I re edited the original post to make it a little more clearer

 

I have Einstein.

 

It seems it boils down to Evras word against Suarez and the intent will never be known.

The FA cannot judge as to whether 1 player or the other has lied. From an educational point of view they have to make it clear to Suarez that the language he used is not acceptable, but they should not ban or fine him as there is no clear evidence and to take action would rand him a racist.

 

And yet Evra still maintains Suarez isn't a racist. So...

 

That's an excellent point.

 

Try right-clicking and opening in a new tab.

 

Sorry, still smacks of one word against the other to me. Tit for tat and all this. The FA have shown themselves up to be the knobs they are.

And I would go as far to accuse them of racism for ruling so readily against Suarez.

 

That make my point even more valid, any fine or ban has to be made clear that it is for education purposes only and that Evra and the FA are not saying he was racist. So is an 8 match ban appropriate?

 

It's not working for some reason - maybe it's my Mac.

Oh well I'll find it on the FA website I guess

 

You don't have to be an alcoholic to have a drink.

 

I bet you keep convincing yourself you're not a virgin with deep comments like that!

 

I think this is a case of the wrong place at the wrong time. With Sepp Blatters stupid comments about racism in football something like this happening was inevitable, without trying to bring up points made countless times on not606, It was going to happen to some one, unfortunately it was us.

I'm going to bookmark this comment just incase Terry gets off lightly