It was always going to be tough no matter who we put out though with the form Rooney is in it could have made a difference.
Stoke vs United match thread
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It was always going to be tough no matter who we put out though with the form Rooney is in it could have made a difference.
Yeah Berbatov and Owen didn't stand up at all well against stoke. Too physical for them.
Do ESPN pay Burley? The guy is a joke.
Blames De Gea for not coming for Stoke's goal when there was no chance he could come then when De Gea comes and claims a cross a few minutes later shifting Rio out the way he says "that was risky, De Gea could of taken his eye of the ball" LOL
Blames De Gea for not coming for Stoke's goal when there was no chance he could come then when De Gea comes and claims a cross a few minutes later shifting Rio out the way he says "that was risky, De Gea could of taken his eye of the ball" LOL
IMO given the injuries we were presented with before and during the game unsettled the side and so I think it's a good point gained. Although it seems like a cliche, I was disappointed with Berbs body language throughout. I also thought Young was poor and the Anderson/Fletcher combination just couldn't get to grips in midfield. No real excuses from me as like I said I think we will look back on this as a good point, but I am getting concerned by the amount of injuries we are picking up.
This game was without a doubt a game the ABU`s will not mention this season. In my opinion we should have had two pens but the ref decided otherwise.............What is is what is..... I also think Roo would have made a difference.
True dat. But I'm happy we managed to get a point at one of the toughest places to visit when missing our two most important players. Bodes well for the rest of the season once Vidic is back, and shows we still have the ability to scrap for a result when things don't go our way
If stoke came away with 3 points United wouldn't have felt too hard done by. Rooney or not this was a tough tie, and I heard on another thread on here a mention of 4 0.
Least ye got the point, at the moment a point at Stoke is a good point earned.
Least ye got the point, at the moment a point at Stoke is a good point earned.
Actually if we'd come away with nothing I'd have felt pretty hard done by given we had most of the possession, could have had a penalty or two, and a harsher ref might have sent Whelan off for that lunge on Evra. But then again if we'd come away with nothing we'd have had only ourselves to blame, much like Liverpool a week ago imo.
My jaesus teh bitter bile because Stoke didn't submit. Pathetic. They were the better team by a slight margin on the day and you oh yeah, blame the ref, it is always the ref when United lose
A little harsh, but no big injustice. Thats my point, hard done by but not too hard done by. Lots of useless posession is what is says on the tin. Stoke were more effective with theirs and should have got 2 maybe 3
Ah sure penalties, some you get some you dont, supporters of thelarger clubs cannot really complain
My jaesus teh bitter bile because Stoke didn't submit. Pathetic. They were the better team by a slight margin on the day and you oh yeah, blame the ref, it is always the ref when United lose
I don't think he's bitter at all, IMO what he's trying to say is that when it comes to 50/50 decisions we don't get them all the time and so the next time the tin foil hat brigade start up they should remember this game.
I do agree that Stoke were good value for their point by the way.
I dunno, we were pretty effective with ours - we created enough for Giggs to do a Torres in the final minutes. On another day it could've been 3-1 Utd, 3-1 Stoke or anything in between. And yeah, penalties schmenalties - if you want to be challenging for the PL you have to be man enough to get the job done even if the decisions don't fall for you.
P.S.
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2011/Sep/Sir-Alex-Stoke-reaction.aspx
"I was pleased with the performance from the lads - they battled really hard and played like real champions. A draw is probably a fair result. It's a difficult place to come to."
Ah, such a bitter old man, clearly seething at the penalty decisions and unwilling to be at all gracious to the other side...
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2011/Sep/Sir-Alex-Stoke-reaction.aspx
"I was pleased with the performance from the lads - they battled really hard and played like real champions. A draw is probably a fair result. It's a difficult place to come to."
Ah, such a bitter old man, clearly seething at the penalty decisions and unwilling to be at all gracious to the other side...
If not for TWO class saves you would have lost tonight. And Glen Whelan got the ball all of it and was booked. And, Pennant was pushed in the back 2nd half. A clear penalty which, surprise, surprise wasn't shown again nor brought up by Lawro and Co.
NEVER did I think that we would get anything tonight from that game. To say I am slightly dissapointed that we didn't win say's it all.
We rode our luck at times but so did Utd it could have been 3 or 4 if Crouch had taken his chances but WELL happy with a pt that's fair enough.
Good luck for the rest of the season.
NEVER did I think that we would get anything tonight from that game. To say I am slightly dissapointed that we didn't win say's it all.
We rode our luck at times but so did Utd it could have been 3 or 4 if Crouch had taken his chances but WELL happy with a pt that's fair enough.
Good luck for the rest of the season.
Neutral's perspective:
Baring in mind United had an 100% record against Stoke since they've been in the Premier League (before today), I'd say a point for Stoke would do them just fine.
A very open game and United did well to deal with the high balls and crosses etc. The Britannia is by no means an easy place to come to and a draw is a pretty good result, to be honest. United fans should be happy with that, especially when it wasn't their full strength side being fielded out on the pitch.
In the second half, Stoke edged it, as they were fairly disciplined and compact defensively but created chances at the other end, too. Crouch missed a couple of sitters, but his hold-up play and strength was surprisingly very good.
I think Woodgate took a huge risk when he went through the back of Hernandez. He got the ball first IMO but it wasn't a smart decision because if he'd got that one wrong or if the ref was less lenient, Stoke could have been down to 10 men and conceded a penalty. For me, it wasn't a penalty, but Woodgate should avoid making challenges like that again. Very fortunate.
De Gea made some outstanding saves, particularly from Wilkinson's and Walters' efforts.
All in all, a draw was a fair result IMO but Lady Luck was with Stoke yesterday
A very good analysis
Side question. When is rafael back? Its onlt that smalling is a better DC and Valencia was way out of his depth yesterday.
I was just disappointed by the performance from us, we play better than that! Are midfield was non existent, we should of been better!
Im not happy with a few of the refs calls but then sometimes it's just the way it goes, it should of been 1 pen and a red card!
On to the next match..
Im not happy with a few of the refs calls but then sometimes it's just the way it goes, it should of been 1 pen and a red card!
On to the next match..