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Stephen McGinn

Discussion in 'Watford' started by Hilts24, Jun 23, 2012.

  1. Hilts24

    Hilts24 Well-Known Member

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    Any good.?

    Rumour is hes signing for Cardiff on a free.
     
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  2. North North Watford

    North North Watford Active Member

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    At his best he's very good. But he has always taken an eternity to peak, and he hasn't played in 16 months. Oh, and although he can play across the midfield, I don't think he's as good as either Jordon Mutch or Don Cowie.
     
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  3. Hilts24

    Hilts24 Well-Known Member

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    Cheers.

    If hes not as good as Don Cowie hes not worth signing.
     
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  4. Markthehorn

    Markthehorn Well-Known Member

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    Bit of a risk to sing any player who has been out for 16 months I feel and as said before you guys already have a decent midfield IMHO.
     
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  5. Hilts24

    Hilts24 Well-Known Member

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    We need wide players with pace.

    Don Cowie is far to slow to play there so if McGinn isnt better than Cowie then hes going to be nowhere near the standard of Whittingham , Gunnarsson and Mutch.

    All rumours so far but the Cowie rumours started around the same time last season.
     
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  6. Chris 13

    Chris 13 Well-Known Member

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    Well well well - not another one?

    We pay him & get him fit......

    On your question though. I heard he was flying in training at the end of the season.

    Lastly - due to his age would we get money anyway? Or maybe his previous club does? Anybody know?
     
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  7. North North Watford

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    He's under 24, so compensation will be due to us as long as we haven't tried to make him take a pay cut.

    ... probably no compensation then.
     
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  8. wear_yellow

    wear_yellow Well-Known Member

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    If he goes, he is a dirty thieving scum bag...so he sits well with your manager and Cowie
     
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  9. zen guerrilla

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    Didn't see that coming....

    There should be some recourse for this sort of behaviour, except there isn't. I can see the conversation a year ago.

    MM "I'm off to Cardiff, get yerself fit and then ye can join Don and me."
    SM "Aye, boss."
    MM "Yer contracts up next summer, so drag it out."
    SM "Aye, boss."
    MM "And keep quiet about this, I'm gonna take th' backroom boys and transfer targets too so ye'll be wi' friends."
    SM "Aye, boss."
     
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  10. Cornish Mark

    Cornish Mark Well-Known Member

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    I don't see the problem here. You sign a contract to work for someone for a period of time, say 3 years. You get injured doing that job, so you expect your employer to pay the medical bills and pay you as in the terms of the contract while you can't work. We would all be the same in our own jobs. Contract comes to an end. Everybody is free to do what they want. If McGinn had been no good, then we would have said we don't want to give you a new contract and left him to his own devices and worry about how to pay the mortgage with no income. It works both ways.

    And another thing. I don't think Baz is that stupid. He buys a cluib for £440,000 and sells it 14 months later for £8 to £12 million plus a refurbished pub. I don't think you can do that if you are stupid.
     
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  11. LuxWFC

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    Well we've not shown any indication that we want to release him. I'd assume that he's waiting for the takeover to happen, then the backroom staff will probably urge the owners to sign him up for a few more years.
     
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  12. Mexican Hornet

    Mexican Hornet Well-Known Member

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    Stop your manager robbing his old club. Can't you find some decent players elsewhere? Or is that as good as Malky gets
     
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  13. Mexican Hornet

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    True words spoken above.
     
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  14. geitungur akureyrar

    geitungur akureyrar Well-Known Member

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    Stephen McGinn has not signed the replacement contract. Why this should be is for him but spending so long on the injury list if he were leaving at the first chance is not very good behavoiur. A contract is a contract but he has not been doing his side of it for a long time.
     
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  15. oldfrenchhorn

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    Agree with you ak, but maybe he feels that things will be a bit more stable for him in Wales.
     
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  16. North North Watford

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    Cardiff are a lot of things right now. Stable isn't one of them.
     
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  17. Mitch_wfc

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    He probably isn't signing a new contract as he doesn't fancy watching the ball fly over his head to the strikers throughout every game. McGinn is a player who needs the ball passed to his feet in able for him to use his vision/creativeness and at the end of the day he is more likely to get that at another club. It's not his fault he's been out since March 2011, and TBH I dont think Dyche would use him even if he was 100% fit anyway. We did well last season without him so he's no loss is he.
     
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  18. Hornette_TID

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    He was doing really well in the reserves games, far better than anyone else from what i gather...and if he goes to that frigging club in Wales i'll be totally f**ked off with that pratt of a manager they've got. Grrrrr! (and won't be that made about McGinn either, coz he owes us for his recovery imho).
     
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  19. Mitch_wfc

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    Matty Whichelow once scored 5 goals in a reserve game, they mean sweet FA. And he doesn't owe us anything, what was our club supposed to say to him: " Sorry Stephen but we are not going to give you any medical treatment because you haven't signed a new contract " It doesn't work like that in real life.
     
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