Thursday, January 23rd, 2014 STATEMENT FROM THE HCOSC BOARD OF DIRECTORS Chris Ashton has decided that he must resign his position as Chairman and director from the Board of the Hull City Official Supporters Club (HCOSC). In a recent letter to the Board, Chris said that he has secured new employment that will be quite demanding and this will not give him time to fulfill his duties. Chris added that he has enjoyed his time with the HCOSC and wishes the Board, Officers and Members best wishes for the future. The Board of Directors have accepted Chrisâs resignation and wish to place on record their thanks to him for all his hard work and wish him every success in his new career. Vice-Chairman Richard Beachell has assumed the duties of Chairman for the time being and it is business as usual for the HCOSC Board. Richard said âIt is the responsibility of the Board of Directors to try and bring our members closer to the Football Club and we are achieving this with events held last year such as the Andy Dawson Testimonial Evenings, the Promotion and Christmas parties and the very successful player visits to Branches that are on-going at the moment. We are currently planning our Player of the Season Awards Evening, a Sportsmanâs Dinner/Fans Forum and are looking at hosting other events that our members can enjoy by being a part of the HCOSCâ. Richard continued by saying âunlike other groups and as the Football Clubâs properly recognised Supporters Organisation, the HCOSC has more than one agenda. We must represent all our members views, stay impartial and provide unique opportunities that would not otherwise be available to themâ. Richard added âRecently the HCOSC has received a lot of criticism by some factions for the stance it has maintained on the proposed name change of the Football Club. In the main we have not responded but this does not mean the situation has been treated lightly. The depth of feeling shows the passion that supporters feel for the Football Club and the vote we are currently carrying out amongst all our members will illustrate this. It is clear that opinion is divided amongst supporters and although it is a very important subject, differing views must be taken into consideration. There are other organisations available, for which the proposed name change is their sole agenda and supporters can take advantage of these if they so wish. I fully respect these organisations and every supporterâs opinion but the HCOSC is about so much more than the proposed name change. We have to ensure that our members receive value for their subscription and through the publication of the Tigermag and our unique events I believe we do achieve thatâ. . HCOSC Board of Directors 23rd January 2014
Not according to their own and every other poll. They'll never represent fans as long as they're too timid to stand up to the club when needed. They have very little credibility as a group. I got a copy of tiger mag, and it simply confirms my feelings. The OSC needs a root and branch over haul.
It's a shame that Chris has stepped down, he's a decent bloke. Despite their vote, which will no doubt be against the name change as they all are, they will still fudge their submission as much as possible, due to fear of reprisals from AA.
Is the OSC tying to be representative of the fans or is it simply a social organisation that is tied to the football club? The only facts are that polls show massive indifference. Even amongst the anti name changers 61% will still attend matches if the team is Hull Tigers. Are the polls conducted representative of Hull City supporters? I would guess that so far only around 5% of the supporter base have actually stated their preference in polls undertaken by supporter organisations. That percentage number polled may rise when the biggest Hul City supporter groups poll is in, but even then the percentages against may remain the same. So far (again a guess) 350 members of two groups have been asked to vote, one HCSS only had returns from 141 out of 273 members. 52% of members voted against a name change a majoirity but only just. At another guess how many members does the Tigers co op have lets say 80. How many responded to their poll? Time and time again the numbers repeat themselves. And time and time again the spin is put on the results to suit the argument. For every one person who will put their money where their mouth is there are ten who will not. The club can conclude from the polls undertaken that it may only lose around 1600 season pass sales. Nothing has ever been shown to disprove what Nick Thompson said about the support. I said that I would not join in the protest unless it could inspire a reaction from the supporters who sit around me and this is the case still. So stop asking for a change at the OSC, become a member of the committee, apply to join the board and do something about it!
That's raised a thought. Could a comparison be, supporting the miners strike but still drinking in the local conservative club because it sells the cheapest beer?
That's arse about face, but at least you acknowledge the OSC in its current form is not fit for purpose and unrepresentative of the core support. As for the 'figures' you post, there's a saying that goes something like "some use statistics like a drunk uses a lamp post, for support rather than illumination". If, as you seem to be trying to claim, most people don't care, some care passionately against and Mr Allam is the only one in favour, that for me is a mandate to oppose the change. Sitting on the fence for fear of a player not turning up at a open night because they've lost the 'official' status for me is a pathetic excuse. I still can't work out what it is you want. You just seem to oppose those against the name change, but offer no robust reasons nor alternative.
How the hell does that equate to "massive indifference"? That's either bullshit for effect or complete and utter spinelessness. Either way, it doesn't look good for you.
The biggest Hull City fan group is CTWD and they are 100% against the name change. They also managed to get their FA submission in on time.
There are plenty of active supporters out there who simply want to watch Hull City AFC and can't be arsed to get involved in the political shenanigans of our twerp of an owner. I'm as confused as anyone as to why you seem to feel you strongly object but that you require some sort of populist mandate to do it.
Perhaps the reason given was as genuine as that of Nick Thompson. I wonder how long before Ashley Lord finds pastures new.
I said that I would not join in the protest unless it could inspire a reaction from the supporters who sit around me and this is the case still. You'll leave it to everyone else Mel ? Surely you didn't mean to say this ?
1600 members out of 18000 Could it be that I more representative of the majority of supporters. Against the name change but not prepared to join the CTWD protest. Could it be that some of what is posted as fact on here is actually bollocks? I may have worded my responses badly but the fact remains that posters on here have stated that the HCSS poll showed 90% against change, but in fact it only showed 52% of its membership voted against change. Tigers co op claim 92% against the change but do not publish out of how many. I think that this damages any submission. The OSC poll may produce results that are the same. Around 50% of supporters who can vote do not care enough about the change to bother. I asked if the protests could be scaled down to allow for debate to be re opened between Assem Allam and the supporters. In fact the door was open to stop the application but it got slammed shut because of the application for another team to be called Hull Tigers. If you dont like being challenged dont post ****e that can be challenged.
Well there's irony for you. The UK Government better close down until they've got their system in line with your thinking.
