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Starmer Cleared

Discussion in 'Bristol City' started by wizered, Jul 8, 2022.

  1. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker
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    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    Never in doubt, was always the Tory’s trying to make trouble, trying to cover for Boris’ behaviour. No need for any of that nonsense now , thankfully he’s gone, well sort of, the sooner he’s gone for good the better.
     
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    Starmer has his faults (show me a politician on ANY side who doesn’t) but he doesn’t wind me up too much. The people who really DO boil my piss on the Labour side are Abbott and co. I’m surprised Starmer hasn’t purged those idiots.
     
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    Double Standards to be honest! If he had a drink with colleagues during lockdown, he broke the rules - SIMPLE! It doesn't matter how long it went on for, he was doing things the rest of us couldn't, as did the Tories who rightly got punished.

    I find Starmer a bit too smarmy for my liking and think he would he would be weak on the world stage, and go MIA if he was the PM. He's 100% better than Corybn - not that it's hard. The country (and the World for that matter) are in a financial mess, so having Labour in charge would only make that worse.
     
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    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    I smell corruption.....as Supercon says, double standards..The fact that the rest of the Country was locked down and unable to meet up with relatives or attend funerals etc..
    Reminds me of the double standards of the corrupt and tarnished BBC..
    We are all being played as fools...
     
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    Not at all, there were exceptions, specific rules for work meetings, The Labour Party stayed within the rules, by the way Boris was involved in around a dozen such gatherings, only once was he found to have broken the rules.
     
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    Not double standards at all, having a drink with colleagues during a legitimate work event was within the rules, that’s a fact. You may not like it, but it was within the COVID rules at the time. The police investigated twice and found no rules were broken.
    As I explained to one4 Boris went to around 12 that were investigated by the police and was only found guilty of breaking the rules once.

    if having a drink during a work meeting in itself was breaking the rules Boris would have been fined a dozen times. FACT.
     
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    Do you know what they were?
     
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  9. wizered

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    I still can't understand how a pre planned, pre ordered Alcoholic drinks and curry event for 30 people, which was evidenced by a photograph was with in Covid rules, it's barmy.
     
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    I don’t know the exact wording applicable to Durham at the time no, but obviously the Labour Party did and stuck to them. I do know under certain circumstances you were allowed food and drink in a work setting as long as the relevant rules were adhered too.
     
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    We don’t know the exact circumstances, Labour obviously felt they had applied the correct rules, the police investigated fully and agreed with then, I don’t see the problem.
     
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    Yep, rules for them and other rules for the rest of us..........blinkers comes to mind!!........
    I've said all along that MP's had no fear when it came to Covid.......just aimed at the mass
     
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    I don’t understand the problem some people have with this. Boris was investigated multiple times and only found guilty of breaking the rules once, do I bleat on about it , no.

    It seems some people have a problem accepting decisions unless they fall in their favour. It’s like Brexit, despite losing the vote some Remainers didn’t want to accept it.

    just accept the decision and move on.
     
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    <laugh><laugh><laugh>, I smell a wum
     
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    Just because you don’t understand doesn’t mean it isn’t correct, just means you don’t understand the rules correctly
     
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    I never mentioned it wasn't correct, I genuinely think it's barmy, 30 of them caught quaffing back copius quantities of San Miguel and curry red handed, I don't understand it but that's the law.
     
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    The point is Wiz, they obviously knew what the rules were and kept within them, if it wasn’t within the rules they wouldn’t have done it. Why criticise people for doing things that were within the rules. I don’t get it.

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    BTW if they’d have broken the rules I’d have been the first to criticise, but they didn’t.
     
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    Boris has broken the rules and been economical with the truth all his life, he’s the only PM ever to have had a FPN against him whilst in office, for breaking HIS OWN RULES . Yet some people still stick up for him. Now Kier has been found innocent and yet people still compare them, now that is DOUBLE STANDARDS.
     
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    You were posting about specifics. I do know this. If my workplace being a care service had acted similarly we would have been breaking the law, and the staff would have been involved in multiple breeches of covid regulation and risk assessment = illegal gross misconduct.

    My service was NOT allowed boozy gatherings of thirty to feast on curries. Wider society on that date was also NOT allowed to do similar.

    Check the covid rules for the timescale.
     
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    My point was Labour knew the rules specific to the workplace and area they were in, and kept within them.

    Yours may well have been different, remember all they did was apply the relevant rules, they had no hand in setting them. If yours were set incorrectly that’s down to the government at the time.

    Tbf as you work in the care service having stricter rules is probably proportionate, as you are likely to be in contact with vulnerable people.
     
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