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  1. The artist JerryChristmas

    The artist JerryChristmas "Massive old member"

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  2. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    To be fair, I think USA have blown this completely out of proportion. It's quite ignorant of them to think that every deal done with Iran is related to terroism.

    But I agree with you, they were quick to butt in during the racism incident.
     
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  3. The artist JerryChristmas

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    £165 billion isn't likely to be investing in small Iranian business enterprises though is it? <laugh>

    Does make me yearn for the days of being sponsored by Crown Paints rather than shady financial institutions <ok>
     
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    Good for them <ok> as the executive said, who are the Americans to dictate to the rest of the world who to deal with.
    Not content with destroying the Euro, America now turns on the financial system that helped it do so to ensure continuation of the dollar as the currency to trade in.
     
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    you don't suppose its linked to a certain religeous/ethnic group who are very powerful in American politics abusing that position. Pretty sure its not and Iran must be a terrorist state.
     
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  6. Foredeckdave

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    Whilst the whole of the Financial Services industry stinks to high heaven, this US action against Standard Chartered smacks a great deal of of US jingoism. It is very interesting that, so far the NY regulators have onlt taken action against UK and European banks. When I read that they are taking action against J P Morgan and Morgan Stanley then I will start to believe that they come to thiese matters with 'clean hands'.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    if you add record profits to jealous us banks i think 2+2 = 4 and this equals a fit up job by US interests to force the Asian based bank out of the us.
     
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  8. The artist JerryChristmas

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    I don't doubt this is true Dave. My concern is more related to their whinging last year about what a minor incident (in relative terms) would do to their image and how this (much more serious allegation) will reflect on and impact LFC. I wonder if we will write them a strongly worded letter about the clubs concerns <whistle>
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    also if you add in the applve v samsung stuff you can see that us firms don't like better run asian companies coming in and outdoing them... apple could find themselves on the end of a very sticky situation in the us and eu courts very soon about patent law and could have to pay record damages having has sales of samsung devices blocked.
     
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  10. terrifictraore

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    Typical american attitude about having to be best. Now this is generally a good thing a part of the reason for americas rise as a super power, but it is when you abuse that power to keep others down that the damage is done.


    Apple is only doing what microsoft did for years.
     
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    This stuff at international level is just nonsense.

    Iraq, Afghanistan, Nicaragua, Saudi Arabia, Israel and any number of African dictatorships the US has slept with when it suits. All have funded terrorism.

    Look at the Western liberal doogooders pining for the Syrian rebels despite them being funded by Saudi & awash with imported Al-Qaeda fighters all ethnic cleansing the Christian population of Syria as they go. But wait! Aren't Al-Qaeda the enemy? So we're supporting them in one country but shooting them in another while they shoot back with weapons the US gave them when they were friends 20 years ago.

    How on earth is Standard Chartered suppose to keep up with Who the US is playing with, cheating on and ignoring in class??? (ok Iran is a long term enemy) but the rest of the world should start saying FO to the US. There's another morally corrupt superpower quite happy to take on their role.

    Let's keep ignoring every Swiss bank though eh??
     
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    It's funny how, when you take a moralistic stance in business issues, it somehow turns round and bites you in the bum :biggrin: <ok>
     
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    It may well be nonsense but so was the Suarez affair, this has more weight than that and yet Standard Chartered felt they had to stick their nose in to the Suarez affair. ****ing hate having a bank on the front of our shirt, even if it is a lucrative deal
     
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  14. brb

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    £10 billion wiped from its value.
     
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  15. The artist JerryChristmas

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    My sentiments exactly <ok> I appreciate the argument that we have to get the biggest deals we can in order to fund the ridiculous wages of the players these days but it does depress me having to do deals with the scummy financial institutions just to keep up with other clubs who are doing the same.
     
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    Yeah so often the case eh mate <applause>
     
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    IMO we're all brainwashed by America... the equivalent of twitter and FB exist in china etc and really i get the distinct impression that in 50 years America will be a backwater. there's only 300mil of them and they are up to their necks in debts to the 2bil + chinese. the EU has more people in it now and i think there no coincidence its now up to its neck in debts as well.

    America can focus all it wants on iran and we can believe the world actually cares about these things.. hell even though russia is a thrid rate power now due to rampant corruption and decay its got more a a future than the american dustbowl. next 50 years might not be so nice for the world.
     
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    Where is Bluff this morning...he'll enjoy this threads general direction I'm sure <laugh>

    No one doubts the abject hypocrisy of all this but I'm more concerned about the impact of this on LFC. Maybe it'll be minimal but its always made me feel uncomfortable having a financial institution emblazoned across our shirts.

    Sometimes I just don't feel the emotional association with the club that I did growing up feeling that LFC was a part of the people of this city rather than being just another global sporting brand/franchise. That is a sad state of affairs for one who grew up with LFC in the blood.
     
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    Fully agree but as it has developed over the years I have just grown used to it, and although I could never have foreseen it being this bad, I understand and accept why it has to be this way.
     
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  20. DirtyFrank

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    These days the alternative is what a Saudi Prince, A Russian "businessman"? As Dave said Business & Morals don't mix, never have. The moment the Premier league was invented morals went out the door from sponsors to player transactions. Is it right? Nope. Do we want are team to request its removal from the league down to one where we can remove immoral influence? Probably not.

    In a few decades time there won't be the likes of us who remember it any other way. But by then our Chinese overlords will only allow us to play snooker as we will have been renamed snookerland in their global play park to out do Disenyland....:D
     
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