From "Sporting Intelligence" on twitter. Make of it what you will, for me, shows the massive leap you need to have to be in the top 6. please log in to view this image
Thanks CBK, interesting graph. The bottom three are the promoted teams, so probably had a lower starting point than the rest (despite promotion wage increase clauses). It also shows how 'sensible' we appear to be on salary. Fair play to Spuds too as their wage bill doesn't appear too extortionate (in relative terms).
Interesting. Also shows how well Arsenal are doing to be top of the League. And the extent to which Man Utd really are underperforming.
It seems like the salaries are estimated based on 12-13 accounts (grrrr) so that might affect some, it also shows to me that the salary bit, which goes out every single year, completely dominates transfer fees, even though they are the ones everyone reports on. Might have mentioned this before...
How much you need to spend to be part of top 4? Or how much to be part of top 4 and have a proper crack at Europe?
Interesting...we've over achieved if it was based solely on money. It is very hard to break into the top 4/6 without expenditure...a team like us can beat any of the top clubs on our day, but winning enough to challenge for the top is impossible. Even if we did well initially, the top clubs would just buy 1-2 stars in the January window and give themselves an advantage. The situation might improve for us after several good seasons, but not in the short term.
I'd have thought West Ham were a lot higher than that, given that by their own admission they were very close to the FFP limit.
That's the big problem with working off year old data. Sunderland also (not quite as severe). I think Tottenham will be higher than that. Also the way the data is presented makes no sense whatsoever. But that's being picky I suppose.
Don't know full details of rules, but I think Nicola voted against the FPP because it favours the status quo. The top clubs have more opportunities to massage the figures...by massive sponsorship deals from owners for stadia and kits. Consider the money put in to rename the Etihad.
So very roughly, that sum of all that cost is... £4BILLION Made me feel a bit sick adding that up. It's a great sport, one I love, but really... £4billion just to kick a ball around. Mental.
Interesting though just the same.......Nice one CBK. I too am surprised by the so called wage Bill of wet spam and the cost of their squad. Am also surprised to see stoke and Newcastle and even Aston Villa above us. It would suggest we are way over performing perhaps. At a guess I would have thought we would have been on a par with Everton there or there abouts.
I guess this shows why we can't 'expect' a top-four finish yet. Our spending bar will undoubtedly be higher after this summer, but it looks like where Everton are in this chart would be where we should aim for in terms of spending vs results. Newcastle have a high spend, but they tend to recoup more than they spend when they sell (Carroll, Ba, and now Cabaye) so they can't be said to be doing too badly either. If we can keep developing quality from the academy and attract quality from elsewhere like Ramirez, Wanyama, Lovren and Osvaldo we can only improve. After all quality attracts more quality. I don't really want us to obecome a high spending club like City or Chelski...
I expect what West Ham declare legally and what is put through offshore companies etc etc etc ALLEGEDLY... is a different matter.
This is from last year's spending and Pulis had been bringing in a lot of players on high wages over the past couple of years. Aston Villa still had a lot of O'Neils high wage players like Bent. On West Ham FFP isn't based solely on wages is it? and they do have a lot of debt still. The icelandics have to pay 50% of that debt still and were they paying all of Carroll's wages last year?
Arsenal appear to be doing very cannily indeed. Not paying out too hugely on salaries AND fleecing their supporters at the same time.
It does show that 7th is up for grabs, though, and that Everton don't belong in that "certainly up there" category.
Tack on (reportedly) 150k-175k p/w for Carroll and Downing and it wouldn't shock me in the slightest if they ranked seventh in next year's edition.
I don't think that we'd field a team of kids if Southampton achieved a historic PL position and got Champions League football. Europa league is another matter...
