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  1. Tony_Munky_Canary

    Tony_Munky_Canary Well-Known Member

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    I simply cannot believe we've moved Bradders on, he was comfortably our best player last seaso, has shown he can cut it in the Premier League and his goals from midfield would have been vital this season so this cannot be football based decision, Alex Neil isn't stupid and from a footballing perspective it makes absolutely zero sense whatsoever.

    Which suggests to me that something clearly isn't right in the dressing room or training ground, there has to be some kind of personality issue going on for Bradders to want out and for anyone at the club to want him out, and I have to admit I didn't see this coming at all.

    Now it has it makes me think about something AN said in the presser last week after the cup game. Speaking about the Grabban situation he said something along the lines of "no player or group of players will have more power at the club than I will allow" them. At the time I quite reasonably assumed Grabban was the only problem in the squad, but thinking about it now perhaps the bit about "group of players" suggests there may have been some kind of cliquey thing going on with possibly people taking the risk of AN's wrath by siding with Grabban?

    I dunno, it's clearly all speculation but something doesn't seem right at all, this move just makes absolute no sense whatsoever, it's certainly put the fans in meltdown and I can't imagine the players are too happy either.

    Just a really confusing window, don't get it at all, we've made life very difficult for ourselves and I just don't get why.
     
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  3. Tony_Munky_Canary

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    Bibble
     
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  4. Dangerous Marsupial

    Dangerous Marsupial Well-Known Member

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    Nah, bullshit (in the least offensive way possible). We got offered more than Johnson is worth (but less than he is worth to us at this stage of the window IMO) and accepted the offer. It is a lot for a 28 year old. But that money is no use to us now.
     
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  5. Tony_Munky_Canary

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    Sorry that makes no sense though. How can it be "more than he's worth" but "less he's worth to us"? I'm only interested in what he's worth to us, and that's far more than £8m which tells me there's more to it.

    At least you bothered to construct an argument though <ok>
     
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  6. oldcanariesfan

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    It's the POTS syndrome. Last year it was Snoddy (a quite sensible move for him at the time) and now it is Bradders which makes no sense to me and I guess a lot of City fans like me.

    Can't quite work out why this is happened but I am very disappointed.
     
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    Dangerous Marsupial Well-Known Member

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    It's simple: Derby offered us much more than his market value. The second part was 'IMO' as in, I felt we get no benefit from the deal, but I don't sanction the clubs transfers.
     
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  8. Tony_Munky_Canary

    Tony_Munky_Canary Well-Known Member

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    But how can £6m be "much more than his market value"?? It clearly isn't based on some of the other deals going around. It might be a bit higher, but definitely not "much" and anyway he's worth far more than that to us, which is the important bit. And as you say yourself the deal has no benefit for the club, so why do it?

    From all we know it makes no sense at all, that's why I think there must be more to it.
     
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  9. Russ Martin 2

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    I thought it was a joke at first... We sold a player who was almost certain to feature and a fan favourite but left ourselves no time to buy a replacement.
    I wish him all the best but I don't see why Derby is a more attractive proposition. Maybe they have more chance of playing in the PL next season? Personally I am disappointed.
     
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    I do worry if players aren't happy, that game on Sunday was very unlike us and no one looked up for it imo. I was disappointed Johnson is gone, but it's not the end of the world. With Mulumbu to come back and Brady to play further up field when Olsson is back, how much would Johnson actually play? perhaps he realised that and wanted to move on.

    I'm going to see where we are in January before I start to panic, we could go on and pick up lots of points or we may not, have to wait and see.
     
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    I've never seen the players looking as flat from the first whistle, no passion or fight at all - and really what was going on in Whittaker's head?

    Maybe the Grabban situation has been handled badly and has taken its toll on the squad after all.
     
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    Well, on a positive note, the Derby v Burnley game will give Bradders the chance to get "reacquainted" with Joey Barton !
     
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    And he gets to score a few more against Ipswich
     
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    AN criticised Bradley Johnson's form after one game publicly which I thought was odd but I didn't read too much into it at the time.

    So yeah, you might be onto something Tony.
     
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    First post in a while, but absolutely fuming with the Board's ineptitude at signing any decent PL quality players this summer.

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    Well that was a catastrophic transfer window...

    Norwich have done the impossible and actually weakened their team after having been promoted. Remember the playoff final...the "£130m game"? What a complete joke! This window has now closed and Norwich have a net spend of £4m!!! Add to that we sell our best player to a bloody Championship side!!!

    This is the side we've let go, an entire team and a half:
    1) Bunn
    2) Cuellar
    3) Turner
    4) Miquel
    5) Garrido
    6) Murphy
    7) Andreu
    8) Vadis
    9) Johnson
    10) Murphy
    11) Van Wolfswinkel
    12) Matthews
    13) McGeehan
    14) McFadden
    15) Morris:

    What the hell do the board think they are doing sitting on close to £40-60m? Throw in the parachute payments from 2013-14 still flowing through (c.£15m per season).

    Wages...highly unlikely given we have a cap of c.£30k per week. Debt...none left so no interest payments.

    Relegation here we come. ‪#‎sackMcNally‬
     
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  16. Russ Martin 2

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    Mulumbu is PL quality and Vadis isn't going away for long. We are all disappointed with the transfer activity but I don't think we are weaker by any means. Sucks more to see our rivals bring in the players they have whilst we have been very quiet.
     
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    I don't know about cliques at the club etc but the toxic atmosphere on here tonight is ****ing ridiculous. Sick of seeing the same nasty bullying and bitching.

    A few keyboard warriors could just do with remembering some bloody manners.
     
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  18. Tony_Munky_Canary

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    Log off and do something else then <ok>

    Sorry, I'm in a **** mood and want to let off steam, I'll be ok in the morning
     
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  19. woodbine

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    Yeah thinking about it I don't think we've weakened our team. I genuinely think the players we've brought in are an improvement, the only disappointing thing is we didn't bring in a top CB. We're leaking goals so you'd think that would be on the top of the list.

    But that tweet from Redmond is very ominous, and with Grabban awol and Johnson wanted to move, you just feel something is not right behind closed doors, for me that is more of a worry than Johnson going and bringing in new players. Maybe this 2 weeks break is a good thing, see if AN can get it together.
     
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    To be honest, more than anything, the club have shot themselves in the foot.

    The fact we did go for players which we obviously couldn't get, I do understand. (although quite a lot of fans have been vocal that we haven't done enough)

    But to than sell out player of the season does seem slightly crazy, it's not as though we desperately need that £6 million. I don't think it's a fantastic deal myself, a midfielder in the championship who scores 10 upwards is worth more than £6 million in my book.

    People writing it off as a once in a career season is harsh, he hasn't had a chance to recreate his form from last year and if he does it at Derby we've really played a stinker there.
     
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