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So Terry's management Career has ended..

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  1. BringBackfootie

    BringBackfootie New Member

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    Now John Terry has been replaced as manager of Chelsea by Rafa, Drogba gone.. Rafa can now get on with the job and cuddling Torres and it won't now cause a problem, I am sure this would have been the case if Rafa had got the job over AVB at that time.

    Still, he may face problems with players knowing he is only there till the end of the season. I think it was a bad idea to hire Rafa and call him interim manager, his authority is lessened as far as the personalities in the dressing room goes. Terry obviously does not like him at this point I would say.

    So will this lot fight what Rafa will try to get across? If or when that happens will RA side with the players yet again?

    I say this because the turnaround when the chavs sacked avb, the players totally shafted a guy they did not like, as player with massive egos as lots do.. Rafa tends to be more school master and that lot won't appreciate that.

    Essentially. That cool substitute teacher that made school less of a drag for a few days has now gone and the headmaster has returned so back to hard study <laugh>
     
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  2. BringBackfootie

    BringBackfootie New Member

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    For the record.

    RA credits luck and his big buys for CL success, not RDM
    This was confirmed by Chelsea in this years group stage.
    SO take out luck and Drogbas divine inspiration and you got, losing to United drawing against us losing 3 0 to Juve and losing to Wigan was it. All you got is what everyone claimed last year, RDM out of his depth and the honeymoon the players were having with buddy at the helm pandering to whims and self important ideas finally coming to an end.

    IMO RDM was sacked with good reason. He dd not at any stage convince RA OR anyone else
     
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  3. ShanksHateTheMancs

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    Its going to be interesting times ahead for sure. I agree calling him interim manager is another stupid move by RA; should have just said til the end of season and then a possible rolling contract. Interesting what he said on the beeb site regarding Cashley and Fat lad; Rafa added: "I don't have all the information, but it's not fair to tell me I'm only here for seven months and then expect me to have an influence at the club over the next two or three years."

    I would love him to put Terry on his place, its been overdue for years now. You have to wonder if Terry actually has some dirt on RA? AVB should have been able to continue his overhaul because all thats happened is it still needs doing and the power struggle still needs sorting. Lets hope Rafa is the man to sort it!
     
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  4. ShanksHateTheMancs

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    I agree I always thought that with RDM in charge this season they had no hope of winning the Prem. Those upset at his sacking obviously know **** all about football!
     
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  5. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    One of the things that Rafa does have going for him is that he owes no loyalty at all to Terry, Lampard, Cole and any others who which to associate with them. Drogba has been refused permission to come back on loan, The Ramieres, Matas and Hazards of this world will quickly recognise that as a manager/coach Rafa knows he is talking about. So don't be surprised to find that 2 distinct camps appear within that club - only this time it will be the dinosaurs and the players.

    If Rafa achieves that, he will be considered a success by RA. If he wins the World Club Championship and keeps Chelsea in the top 4 then he will certainly have earned a bonus.
     
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    Well, it depends. If Terry really does have RA's ear (or his gonads, as you suggest) then any conflict between JT and Rafa is more likely to end in Rafa getting the cement boots.
     
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  7. ShanksHateTheMancs

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    Yep tis true; something seems off. Lets face it Terry is our own Carra, way past his best and living off past glories. Why Chelsea do not get rid is beyond me, perhaps thats the plan; get Rafa to make the big decisions and shake it up and then in waltzes Pep?
     
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  8. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    I really don't buy into the idea that there is a relationship between Terry and RA. AVB was brought in to change the personnel but played his cards totally the wrong way. RDM was a short term 'ship righter' and needed Terry and the crew to make it happen. The fact that RDM managed to win both the European and FA Cups meant that RA was stuck with the pair of them because he could not tempt Guardiola for the start of the season..

    The recent Premiership form and the CL exit has given RA the ideal opportunity to bring in Rafa as a hatchetman. If RA can persuade Pep then Rafa is out at the end of the season.
     
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    I have no idea if there's a relationship between JT and RA- I was just going with the flow. However I do think that when you have an old guard of players with forceful personalities it can influence any but the strongest of managers.
    Fergie wouldn't stand for any **** from his players, but there aren't many with the old bastard's strength of will.
    For most managers, if they haven't got the players on their side, they're screwed.
     
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  10. BringBackfootie

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    The idea of Terry holding something over a Putin crony is really amusing. RA scares the sh!t out of John Terry, or rather he would if he wanted to.

    There are hard men.. and then there are dangerous bast@rds.
     
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    . <ok>
     
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    rumours that Rafa wants to give Terry a job upstairs...........clearing out the attic <whistle>
     
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  13. BringBackfootie

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    For some reason in the back of my mind I keep thinking Rafa wont see out the 7 months due to "problems"
     
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  14. Problem is, RA is in the Lampard, Terry and Cole camp <ok>

    Edit: Yep. I should have read the rest of the thread before commenting <ok>
     
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  15. Muppetfinder General

    Muppetfinder General Well-Known Member

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    And yet his career record is better than Brendan's. Make of that what you will.

    Maybe Chelsea should've taken Steve Clarke. He seems to be doing very well. But he didn't fit the project with us, probably. Or something with a bullet point next to it.
     
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    Change the record - you're boring <ok>

    Why not go and support QPR or West Brom if you hate Rodgers that much.
     
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  17. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    I really don't give a toss.
     
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  18. BringBackfootie

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    <laugh>

    I knew nothing of Rodgers before he arrived so I'll take your word for it. Of course you believe that failure is a linear constant in the universe and on it rides one Brendan Rodgers. I see your point on his record but.. he's got different staff and resources so the outcome may or may not be different. You're being a little fkn obtuse though<ok>

    You can always support Chelsea if you are not happy?


    I'm sorry, I take that back! <laugh>
     
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  19. BringBackfootie

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    FFS <doh>
     
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