http://www.cardiffcity-mad.co.uk/news/tmnw/birmingham_appoint_chris_hughton_682912/index.shtml I guess he updated his powerpoint presentation after the fiasco in his interview at the CCS, as apparently it still had the Hammers logo on it!
Going to make a point about this: "My source has informed me (reliable) that Di Matteo turned up pissed to his interview with Cardiff. Kris Hughton gave a powerpoint presentation to the board and was doing really well impressing jenkins when suddenly he turned over a slide on the powerpoint and it had all west ham united logos and information( as he had the week before his cardiff interview, got interviewed for the vacant west ham job) and forgot to remove them or change them to cardiff city. Jenkins and whitley were not impressed." My problem is I take the first idea as rather ludicrous. DiMatteo turned up pissed? I mean really. Does it mean he had a couple of glasses of wine after lunch or that he couldn't string logical sentences together!!! Secondly, if it is true Hughton did forgot to change the logos and was not considered based on that alone....well....I would be very disappointed with the board. You could argue it was a fatal oversight. You could claim it was sloppy or showed a lack of planning or organization, but this is a guy wanting to be a FOOTBALL manager of our club. I wouldn't be surprised if he had an agent or secretary who was meant to care of his powerpoints anyway. I think i would have found it more humorous than anything. I would be more inclined to think MM was cheaper. Anyway it is in the past and we have MM. I would be careful about casting dispersions towards Hughton though, as I think now that he is the manager at Birmingham we have positions 1 and 2 on the table sorted out already.
I think that the amount of poaching they've done from us over recent years it just makes for a nice headline... As for who made the right choice we will see, as ever, as time goes by...but how could you believe someone's comments about your organisation and their passion to take it forward having had that slide presented to you? It wouldn't be tolerated in the real world, so why in football? If of course it even happened...
Hi Ghost, I think there is a difference between corporate managerial work and football management. I just mean if the board had somebody they thought was going to be their man to lead them to football success (not off field success), and decided on the fact that the power point was messed up that he was not the man......would be a bit sad. Of course he may have made a bit of a hash of the rest of the interview as well
I was in the Hughton camp but the more I see and hear from Malky Mackay the more I realise I got it wrong. If Hughton still had West Ham on his power point then to me he didn't take Cardiff seriously, schoolboy error.
I too think it may have been an oversight but not one that could be overlooked. Just imaging we gave him the job and then he hands in his list of targets but shock horror, after page one it was his old list from his Newcastle days all out off our price range and we only ended up bringing in 1 or 2 players because of his poor planning and preparation. A bit extreme I admit but he obviously did not prepare for his interview so how can we look past that and just assume that he plans properly for the match days training or any other aspect.
I agree, it shows serious lack of preparation and planning, and I have always been a beleiver in the 6 P's "Preparation and Planning Prevent P*ss Poor Performance" My thought would have been if he cany manaage to prepare for an interview properly how will he manage tp prepare for a big game with all hte pressure on him. I agree that maybe it shouldn't be the only thing in an otherwise perfect presentation that failed him, but I'm sure there were others that added weight to it.
I don't know about Houghton's power point but I know that he did not particularly impress at interview and they felt he was not the man to take the club forward.
Xsnag always recall it being "Proper Planning and Preparation Prevent Piss Poor Performance" either way a school boy error and personally I'm glad we didn't get him as I do not think he's good enough for the bluebirds. For me the jury is still out on Malky but I will give him and the club 100% support from afar.
I agree with you on the first bit, I am sure they took other aspects into consideration as well as that but it can't have helped his case! If he really wanted the job he would have made sure of that surely? I don't think MM was the cheap option though, we had to pay compensation for starters which we wouldn't have had to with CH or RdM
I agree a fee of around 300K comp so it is said plus his wages Maybe around 300K (If not more) again would put him near to the wages that we would have been paying for the other 2.
Yes, but work it out over 3 years and some money may have been saved. I am not against the appointment of MM by the way. Happy to see him here. I was just suggesting that one guy showing up drunk and the other way not changing the logo on a power point seemed hard to swallow and if the power point was the only reason Hughton was not hired it would seem a bit petty. Of cours ewe will have different opinions on that So now I am looking forward to our new managerial era! I was not overwhelmed when we signed him. I sort of thought if we were told before we sacked DJ that we would be replacing him with MM we may have gone ...oh really.....ho hum. Hearing him speak and his obvious enthusiasm has grown on me and I look forward to seeing what he can do
Your right that over a period of time it may be a saving but if he is here over a period of time that can only suggest that he has done well so it would have been good business then anyway. Plus to have an outlay of 300k to make just to bring him in when money is needed to strengthen a depleted squad dose not suggest that they were thinking in the long run this will save us money. I will be honest he wasn’t my choice either I was backing RDM who by the sounds of things turned out to be a drunk so what do I know. Again like yourself having heard him talk it has made me feel a little happier that he seems to be focused and really wanted the challenge that our club will provide. Good times ahead i hope even if we have to wait a year or so!!
No, I agree with you that if the PowerPoint was the only reason it would have been very harsh I kinda agree that we may have seen it as underwhelming, in hindsight, as well but I was a big DJ fan anyway haha. MM has grown on me lots since I looked into what he achieved at Watford and seeing his first press conference. Bring on the new season
Why would it be petty to give him short shrift when he's coming into an interview for a job commanding a bankers salary, in a business with a multi-million pound annual turnover, hugely high-profile and a customer-base not to be messed with under any circumstances... It is unforgivable not to give that level of interview the closest of scrutiny to ensure the required level of preparedness! If not, then it says a lot about the man and his commitment to your club and that position in particular - gives a sense of the spammer-CV-applicant hitting 'Apply Now' to every job on every recruitment site with a one-size fits all CV and cover letter...you have to treat applying for a job as if it is your job and getting things wrong will get you sacked! In addition, I don't think his track-record is that amazing to justify a higher salary than MM. Admittedly I felt his sacking was unjustified as NUFC were competitive even after the promotion that seemed nailed on with the team/budget on offer. However he perhaps didn't have long enough to hang himself either, so not a proven track record in my books...
I do see that point of view Ghost, I just think a football manager should be hired on what he can do on the pitch more than that he forgot to change a logo. He was not being asked to run the club off the field. All other parts of the presentation may have been edited perfectly, focused on CCFC, and he may have worked on it to the wee hours and simply forgot to change the logo. TBH, we don't really know what the rest of his presentation was like. It may have been ****e! As I said, just a difference of opinion and pretty irrelevant now.
Agreed! I was never that convinced by him as per my concerns at the end of that post...and I can't help thinking back to a certain press conference where Man City's shiny new signing thought he'd joined Chelsea! ...and look how well that relationship went
