Ever since I was knee high, this club has been in some bother or another. In the 70's we had the Gliksteins apathy, on the 80's all sorts of bad shat. 90's doing well, but you sort of knew it wouldn't last, 2000, Parky, Powell, Disaster. I actually enjoy us being in the news for the wrong reasons. I fear that under the Belgium bun we are going to return to apathy, nothingness, ticking along, nothing special - a bit like Spurs or Norwich. We are not gonna go up or down. Which kinda begs the question, why was we brought? Give me a Hulyer, Jiminez or a Slater anyday. I just cannot stand the boredom under this new regime!!!!
You do realise Typical that Hulyer took us to the brink of extinction, do you really want that to happen again? A lot of time under Glikstein was spent scrabbling around in the lower reaches of Div2 and div3. Any decent players like Billy Bonds, Paul Elliott, Paul Walsh, Mike Bailey etc were sold off, usually for under what they were worth. The less said about the Chuckle brothers the better. We were only heading one way with those two in charge and that was down the toilet. It is still early days with RD. He has done good things, he has done bad things. I know Typical that you are not bothered about us getting to the Premiership, but I am. I would like to see the Valley sold out every game and the likes of Manure and Chelski playing against us.
We've had far more boring times, like when we were playing hoofball in SCP's reign, similar hoofball in Andy Nelson's last couple of years, although that was admittedly enlivened by a relegation battle.. When I started taking FHB jnr. it was in our promotion season when we broke club records for the number of wins to start a season, and I didn't want to be a wet blanket, but had to tell him it wouldn't always be like this. Anyway it got him hooked and he found out the hard way. At present there is a danger that if Roland buys a striker or two in January we could get into the play-offs, so don't give up on the excitement yet!
Here's a list of "Favourite Charlton owners" from my time as a supporter: 1. Roger Alwen. A proper, civilised English gentleman. Always had time for people. Put his money in when nobody else would. Never grandstanded, hogged the limelight, or played to the gallery (see No.100) 2. Glikstein. Simply because he was my 'first' Chairman, and brings back boyhood memories. 3. Hulyer. For all the excitement in 1984 - and the knowledge he subsequently allowed me of the scenic beauty of London SE25. 3= RD. Jury still out for me. Too many s**te signings on his watch. 4. S&J. s**te owners, but took on a train wreck. 100. Murray. The Bob Monkhouse of Football Owners. I mean..."sincerely folks...."
Dick your wrong, Hulyer was the BEST thing to happen to cafc. You must apply the Chaos theory. The Glikstein were the worst period in CAFC history, a bunch of kangaroo farmers who for 50 odd years did nothing. They saw CAFC as a rainy day asset. They would sell when times were hard. They could still be owners now, if it was not for a foot and mouth outbreak on one of their farms. They sold to Hulyer, an overnight millionaire and it was burning a hole in his pocket, he gambled and lost but he got us a European Player of the year, he got us headlined, admittedly we nearly went of business. But we lived one season as a lion and not twenty like a lamb. Alrite so he facked up. But out of adversity came the Valley party, Bernard Sunley, Jimmy Hill, Chief Ologunosa, Curbs, Lawrence, Alwen and Reams. We were exiled, we fought for our ground, we got promotion, we got relegated, we had fun.in those thirty years I would not have swapped it for what Norwich achieved or even Spurs. I am bored shatless under this regime. Its the Glikstein era all over again. May I also remind you that Slater and Jimi were extremely successful directors for this club, perhaps the most successful ever in the short term - no matter what the rumours were, they got us up. If we had stayed down that year we would be like Orient or Brentford.
Typical, please don't think I'm having a go at you or your English but the difference between brought and bought used to confuse me until someone pointed out to me the way to remember which to use. Brought is the past tense of bring - both have an R in them. Bought is the past tense of buy -neither have an R in them. Hope that helps
I agree that under Glikstein the Club stagnated. He didn't want to spend the money to move us on to the next level. But the seventies, for me, were the most exciting time to be a Charlton supporter. The attacking football provided by the likes of Hales, Flanagan, Powell was a joy to watch. We also had a car crash in defence , Berry etc but it didn't seem to matter. If the opposition scored three we scored four. It was unpredictable and exciting with Hulyer in charge but he took us within minutes of extinction, although it wasn't all his fault he accelerated the process by getting in Simonson.
Agree with Typical about the passion in the 80s, now sadly lacking. I was at the Town Hall on the night it was announced we were going back. Look carefully and you can see me in the photos, waving my arms, hugging Rick Everitt, and wearing a Pringle sweater. I doubt you would get much of a response from the "fans" if RD debunked us from the Valley today. H.Irving would reappear from under Katrien's skirt. Reams would start a thread saying we should relocate to Wrexham. And Razil would urge a boycott of STs before buying a whole block on the cheap for himself.
Answer me this. What was a better feeling. One you've had: Watching CAFC run out against Pompey on Dec 5th: or one you think you want ? watching CAFC win the FA cup. Believe me I would not swap that feeling of watching CAFC run out for ten FA cups. And what happened when we got in the Prem - we had an invasion of plastic fans who acted without any class and took it all for granted, and even some of the old time fans thought we (and themselves) could do better. I hated the club we became in the PL. The seventies were stale. In my opinion. Div 1 and Div 2. nothing else. We were kept interesting by interesting players. Derek Hales carried the latter of that decade on his own. I can't think of any cup runs, any great upsets, just DH and his goal of the season. Oh and punching Micky Flanagan for fingering his wife.
There were loads of great upsets, beating Chelsea 4-0 with a Flanagan hat-trick, when their fans tried to burn down the covered end and smashed up the Valley shop and turnstiles. Beating Spurs 4-1 with another Flanagan hat trick. The Covered end was full of Spurs fans and it was infiltrated by Millwall's finest and it kicked off big time. Beating Southampton on a Friday night game 4-1. They had the likes of Channon, Stokes and Osgood in their team.Beating Newcastle 4-1 at the Valley. They are just a few.
I was at all them games bar the Southampton one. The spurs game was memorable because of the fighting in the covered end and the supposed Millwall attending. But this was a spurs side that was shat and we were above them at the time. I recall the Chelsea game (evening) I think. Newcastle was that Dowman own goal? These are good but not a decades worth. And were three of them were mid to late 70's. All I can recall is getting beaten by Brighton 7.0
I was at all them games bar the Southampton one. The spurs game was memorable because of the fighting in the covered end and the supposed Millwall attending. But this was a spurs side that was shat and we were above them at the time. I recall the Chelsea game (evening) I think. Newcastle was that Dowman own goal? These are good but not a decades worth. And were three of them were mid to late 70's. All I can recall is getting eaten by Brighton 7.0
They were just a few Typical, i can post a whole lot more if you want me to? Wasn't getting beaten 7-0 memorable? There is no need to repeat yourself.
On the topic of thrills & excitement, I think it is incumbent on Peeters to be a bit more adventurous on Saturday v Ipswich. The football in recent weeks has been sterile to say the least.
The cameras will put paid to excitement. They always do. They players will be told to keep it tight, not do anything imaginative and play as a team, no showboating. I can see a 0.0
I said the same to my son earlier. It will be a TV snore -fest. But no more of that 4-1-4-1 bollox formation at home, please
I think if Peeters had more faith in a second striker he would go 4-4-2 and go for it a bit more. Tucudean, Ahearne-Grant, Church, Pigott are hardly going to strike fear into a Div 2 defence, let alone a Championship one.
