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Sir Alex Ferguson. Top manager.

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Cest Advocaat, Apr 15, 2012.

  1. Cest Advocaat

    Cest Advocaat Well-Known Member

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    Just been on Sky Sports before the Utd v Villa game his EPL stats.

    P 767
    W 497
    D 162
    L 108

    Pts 1653

    From a possible 2301 points available, he has won 71.8% of them and has a win ratio of a staggering 64.7%.

    He has only lost 14% of his games in over a quarter of a century at Utd. Amazing stats really.

    Honours - 36 major trophies in 38 years of management with 3 clubs.

    St Mirren - 4 years and a 1st Division title

    Aberdeen - 8 years; 3 titles; 4 SFA Cups; 1 League Cup; UEFA Cup Winners Cup Winners; UEFA Super Cup winners (this during a time when Rangers and Celtic were top dogs by a country mile)

    Man Utd - 25 years; 12 EPL titles (13 this year); 5 FA Cups; 4 League Cups; 2 Champions League titles and 2 runners up; 1 UEFA Super Cup; 1 FIFA Club World Cup; 1 Intercontinental Cup. 9 Charity Shields can be added to this. 26 major trophies + 9 Charity Shields. Its hard to even start to think about it really for a lad like me, supporting a club that hasn't won so much as a bag of crisps in nearly 40 years.

    I think there can be little doubt that he is the greatest ever club manager this country, or any other one has produced in the last 35 years in world football. His longevity and continued success over 20 years is testimony to his greatness.

    I have never hated Man Utd for their success or SAF for his attitude and approach to the game and feel privileged to have been alive and watching for the past 20 years. He has been the best exponent of developing youth as well as buying the best players and he has never waivered from his tried and tested formula. Even players he has fell out with respect and admire him and those he has nurtured worship him like a father figure. Others have come, challenged, conquered temporarily but then have been seen off.

    Just felt inclined to post this as those stats came up and did some Sunday research.
     
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  2. Commachio

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    Now can we have the stats on what he has been allowed to spend, in what maybe possibly be one of the best clubs in the world............
     
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  3. Cest Advocaat

    Cest Advocaat Well-Known Member

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    Its irrelevant though mate. Having a **** load of money to spend brings its own massive expectations and demands and it takes a very special manager/person to be able to handle that enormous pressure. That Fergie has done so after 25 years at one of the worlds biggest and most famous clubs and will pick up yet another league title in May 2012, tells me he is the greatest.

    If it were that easy, do you think Bruce, McCarthy or any of the other managers we have had in the last 25 years could have done it at Man Utd? MoN is the first manager we have had in my 38 years following SAFC that could have handled that pressure although I am not saying he or anyone else could have delivered such an array of trophies and major honours in that time.
     
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  4. Commachio

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    I'm not denying he is the best manager the prem has seen or maybe even likely to see...

    But it did co-inside around the years that the prem kicked oof, and they were riding the crest of the wave...

    Hence being the no,1 team also gained the most money from the tv boys...which enabled them to kick on..


    But before him we had the great Liverpool managers working on a much lesser purse, and probably a much lesser scouting system which did not enable them to go and watch all the top stars on any given weekend....

    Best manager..in prem league terms, best manager overall is up for debate.
     
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  5. billofengland

    billofengland Well-Known Member

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    He will not be replaced easily, I cant think of anybody, who could last that amount of years at one club, never mind producing championship winning teams, year in year out. Not even the special one.
     
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  6. ...And Out Come the Wolve

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    As good as his is, he still gives a boring press conference.
     
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  7. Sidthemackem

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    LORD Alex Ferguson?

    Or am I having a LAF?
     
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  8. parkersafc

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    Mourinho is the master for me. He's done it at Porto, Chelsea, Inter and he's very close to breaking barcas dominance at Real.
     
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  9. Cest Advocaat

    Cest Advocaat Well-Known Member

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    Yet he has never beaten Barca?

    For me, he has a way to go yet to be considered better than SAF. He needs to win a European Cup or 3 to become better, although I do agree, he is a very high class manager.
     
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  10. haslam

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    Real haven't beaten Barca whilst he's been manager. If memory serves me correct Mourinho has beaten Barca whilst at Chelsea and at Inter Milan.

    Ferguson is the best of all time in my opinion, but Mourinho is pretty special.
     
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  11. Nostalgic

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    the stats speak for themselves, but he benefited from ECL finance when the league was created and allowed 2 teams then 4. He has never been short of money and bought ready made replacements at top prices when needed. The two European cups he won were after Utd had been outplayed for long periods. Top man without a doubt but had the wherewithal to do it.
     
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    Well he already has two and Real are in the semis this year so this could be 3 European cups with 3 different teams.
     
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  13. Commachio

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    Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson believed it was a penalty after Ashley Young won a spot-kick in the win over Aston Villa.

    Seven days ago, the former Aston Villa man was at the centre of a diving row when he went down under minimal contact from QPR's Shaun Derry.

    Then early on in the 4-0 win over Villa, Young took a tumble under the challenge of Ciaran Clark and referee Mark Halsey had no doubts about awarding a spot-kick despite there not being much contact and Young's fall being theatrical.

    Wayne Rooney converted the penalty and went on to score a brace, while Danny Welbeck and Nani were also on target in the victory, which re-established United's five point lead at the top of the Premier League.

    Ferguson told Sky Sports 1 after the game that while Young played for the spot-kick, it was a penalty.

    "I think he played for the penalty. If the player decides to put his foot in and doesn't stay on his own feet and read the situation then he's fallen into that you know," he said.

    "He's definitely taken him but I think it was a dramatic fall and I think that he maybe over did the fall but it was a penalty, there was no doubt about that.

    "And I don't think he can have any compliant because he has actually taken him."

    Good defending

    Asked if the game has virtually changed now and the onus is on defenders to literally keep out of the way, Ferguson said: "No, I think good defending has always been good defending - he'll read it better.

    "It was a young lad, don't forget and if they read the game and keep on their feet, then they should really cope with that.
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    He's on a different planet..
     
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  14. Nostalgic

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    It was the defenders fault for trying to get the ball. Everyone knows that. Never tackle in the penalty area at OT.
     
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  16. marcusblackcat

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    Aye he's spent a lot of money - but he also has brought through players like Paul Scholes, Ryan Giggs, Lee Sharpe (Awesome in his hayday) etc... He has spent on what he has needed to (and signed a couple from Blackpool beach for a lot as well!) but for every bad signing there have been 10 good players playing for him..

    Also re Young's dive - anyone see the similarities between that and Dzeko's dive against us? Both cheating bastards

    Comm - re "on a different planet" - I think he has to back his player in this instance and most managers would do the same - but I know for a certain fact that if that was Larsson then he'd be yellow carded!!
     
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  17. Commachio

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    Can't remember mate, was Larsson carded for his swandive?....i'm having a mind blank.
     
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  18. Hurricane Eriksen

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    Real Madrid beat Barcelona in the cup final and he beat Barcelona with Inter Milan...
     
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