well when Jan window opens we are going to struggle to bring quality in,exactly the same scenario as last season. Nobody will want to sign when a relegation battle will be on the cards. The only way quality signings will come will be next season, if we are still in the championship. The bumpy ride continues. What happened to the early season form.
Be careful what you say RR because some on here might take offence. Oh to hell with it I'll back you up with saying you are spot on with the comment. All the components are in place for a successful football team except for the owner's insistence for hiring the wrong people to run his club and that's certainly down to the fact he wants total control. I would like to have been a fly on the wall when Steve Coppell headed for the hills because he probably told a few home truths to Lansdown whereas Lee is more likely to say yes sir no sir. Until such time as we hire a true football manager, rather than a yes man, we have little or no hope of advancing. I find it amazing that Steve Lansdown continues to travel the same path despite repeated instances of it leading nowhere. Thanks for the wonderful stadium now go and get the right manager to fill it.
We not interested in other clubs Rob,just city and what has been given to LJ in his short spell,and what he has done with it is poor.
It's not about taking offence, it's about having a reasoned discussion. In fact, let's stick some truths in to show how nonsensical the above is: Gary Johnson - I think we can all agree that was a successful appointment. Steve Coppell - Can hardly blame SL for this. Not to mention that he did the same at Man City, showing that all of the bolded bit above is rubbish. Keith Millen - A rushed appointment as the club was in turmoil. Not ideal but you can see the reasoning behind it. Derek McInnes - Highly rated and well received at the time. I think we were pretty much all wrong on this one. Sean O'Driscoll - As above, but even more strongly so. Steve Cotterill - Again, I think we can agree he wasn't half bad for us. In fact, from the above, I'd say the only one who could be even remotely described as a 'yes' man is Keith Millen! But your point was that players won't come here because of underachieving. So going by that logic we won't see any players moving anywhere at all in January seeing as that can be applied to almost any team.
Can I just clarify, I understand that we absolutely need to improve. But equally, we cannot ever become a club that sacks their manager after a poor run of 8 games. I'd be disgusted if we became that.
I totally agree that Keith Millen was always the fall guy when others didn't work out and I found it very offensive that he was treated like garbage. That is my point exactly, if you treat your managers badly how can you expect good guys to come rushing to your door when yet another poor appointment bites the dust? O'Dismal was one of the worst and had the personality of a slug, McInnes was an experiment that was a failure because of what we will never know and Cotterill was only good in League One and we thank him for that I suppose. We are in the Championship with aspirations to make our mark, so we're led to believe, and I don't truly think any of those managers you mentioned have the ability to meet that standard, although in GJ's defence he gave us our best shot at glory before literally loosing his head in the dressing room prior to the final. In all honestly I'm not quite sure who would fit that job description and as we know all managers (or head coach) are hired to be fired and that's the end of that story. I also find it somewhat in line with my comments about control that Lee has the job title of head coach rather than manager, and if that had been offered to me I would have told Lansdown not to insult my intelligence and shove the job where the sun doesn't shine - so there.
As much as I am thankful for everything SL does for the club, I did lose some respect when the shareholders annual meeting was cancelled. I understand he owns more shares than anyone else but it was an opportunity to stand and be accountable to supporters who had also put money in. It suggests his ego was saying I will do what I want and not be held accountable to you lot.
I think everyone on here knows my feelings about the Lansdowns, particularly the elder one. But it's his club unfortunately and therefore he can appoint who he wishes and he largely does. One of these days it might sink in that there should be a formal and open process used, including a lot of due diligence when appointing a new manager/head coach or whatever the fashionable term is this week, and maybe taking some proper professional advice along the way before giving out the contract. The way City are run remind me of the FA. An old boys club where common sense takes a back seat over 'doing what we've always done' as the norm. Personally I have nothing against LJ and I wasn't one of his haters when he was a player, but I was seriously underwhelmed at his appointment and it may now all be coming home to roost, as neither the owner nor the board can leave things as they are if we continue to lose games.
This is what I don't understand. 'If you treat your managers badly how can you expect good guys to come', followed by, 'O'Dismal was one of the worst' and 'McInnes was an experiment that was a failure'. Even after what has happened, I'd still say the worst manager out of the three is Millen. I actually think O'Driscoll is a very good manager (despite his moodiness and shocking tenure here), I think it was the wrong mix at the wrong time here at City. His managerial philosophy is spot on imo. I agree, but let's face it, at the time (which is what matters for this discussion), McInnes and O'Driscoll were thought of as being progressive, young managers with high potential.
why was it cancelled? as am I MILLEN was not a manager before or has not been since? he was in the right place at the right time and the wrong place at the wrong time ... he saved us... but took on the poison chalice at a time of a lot of internal turmoil at the gate .. HE DESERVES RESPECT!
BCFCRob, it is clear that you will never agree with any comment I make but the point I am trying to get across is that despite possible specific reasons for hiring certain managers none of them proved successful, with the possible exception of bouncing Gary Johnson. Lansdown has consistently set his sights on top class football, which in itself is admirable, but it does not appear to be in his DNA to hire a manager proven to be capable of the task he has set out. I just can't understand what is so difficult about those thoughts from myself and others on this site to take on board. Merry Christmas Rod and let's hope we don't need to continue this banter in the New Year. Have a good one.
I'd say Cotterill was pretty successful too mind! Let's face it, the vast majority of managers aren't successful, we're no different to other clubs. And I promise I don't have any set agenda against you, I'm sure we will agree on other things. I've been told by another member that I write a little too aggressively on here, so my apologies, Merry Christmas to you too mate
