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Should Terry be Englands captain?

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by fran-MLs little camera, Feb 2, 2012.

  1. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    In the news at the moment, Terry's racial abuse trial been scheduled after the Euros. This means that the truth will not be out before the tournament, so should he be captain. This raises issues of innocent before proven guilty or should they try to move trial. look how long Barney's has taken.

    Just as an aside, Sky have been showing Terry's rant all morning with his mouth blanked out. But look at the black Chelsea player in front of him: he looks round at Terry, then his lips become pressed together...a sign of disapproval.
     
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  2. BassettSaint

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    I wouldn't want him as captain even before these allegations. Vile man!
     
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  3. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    He is a vile man, but if the case had been heard by the FA, like the Suarez one, rather than the Crown Court, it would have been settled by now. Seems rather daft this way round.
     
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  4. Saints Fan4Life

    Saints Fan4Life Well-Known Member

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    Yes, off field matters should be forgotten as soon as they enter the pitch

    I hate him as a man, don't get me wrong, but he is a great leader on the pitch
     
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  5. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    The police get involved if someone makes a formal complaint...doesn't have to be the protagonists just someone who was offended. Once they are involved, it becomes impossible to pull back to an 'in house' investigation.
     
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  6. Piebacca

    Piebacca Well-Known Member

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    Off field matters should have nothing to do with his ability to captain the team.

    Keep him in the job.
     
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  7. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    But this can't be categorised as an off-field matter when the incident happened on the field and potentially impacts a good percentage of the people he's meant to be leading, surely?
     
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  8. Piebacca

    Piebacca Well-Known Member

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    nobody with a brain thinks he racially abused Ferdinand.
     
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  9. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    Could be divisive in the dressing room. A trial before the Euros would be ideal.
     
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  10. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    Why would Ferdinand make it up...they'd known each other for years.
     
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  11. Qwerty

    Qwerty Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I am almost certain that he will remain for the Euros (and then probably give it up/retire from internationals). It would not be right to take it off him before the trial.
     
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  12. SFC4BAG

    SFC4BAG Well-Known Member

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    No. Give the job to someone else like Gerrard
     
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  13. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Nobody should be considered guilty before a case is proven. However, John Terry is a prime role model in football, and he has shown that is isn't particularly good at being so. I think the trial should be conducted before the European Championships, in order to get the issue out of the way, good or bad.
     
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  14. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    He's had the captaincy removed before so should be used to it. The captain represents the country and I think it reasonable to appoint another man whilst he is awaiting trial. No one is suggesting he shouldn't play for his country as he hasn't been found guilty, but would be sensible of him to remove himself from the captaincy to avoid embarrassment all round. Best thing would be for the trial to be brought forward.
     
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  15. West Kent Saint

    West Kent Saint Well-Known Member

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    This.

    Personal opinion of the man aside (I don't like him) I've seen the footage without the covered mouth, and its difficult to interpret him saying anything other than what is alleged.
     
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  16. sa1nts

    sa1nts Active Member

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    Terry should definitely be the captain of England. <ok>

    please log in to view this image
     
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  17. sagarebel

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    The best reason of all why he should not be captain or even play for England is he is so slow
     
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  18. benditlikeabanana

    benditlikeabanana Well-Known Member

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    first of all, innocent until proven guilty, second, should not go anyway as he has been shyte for the last 2 years- a glacier is quicker than him and he has the turning speed of the qe2. at least 6 centerbacks should be ahead of him-lescot,jones,cahill,king dawson and not forgetting a certain aaran martin
     
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  19. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    That's a somewhat odd statement unless you're actually John Terry and therefore know EXACTLY what happened.....?
     
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0z_Y2dk-aQ&feature=related

    I have brains. He called Ferdinand a ****ing black ****. If Terry goes to the Euros, I'm supporting Germany.

    Put legal process and actual personal motivations to one side here; the guy's done it on live TV to an audience of millions. The fact that I can even post the clip is all the evidence you need to kick him out.
     
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