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Should Saturdays match be cancelled?

Discussion in 'Bristol City' started by AshtonRed, Dec 16, 2021.

  1. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    With the new COVID variant figures sky rocketing, and people wishing to avoid unnecessary contact to give themselves the best chance of seeing loved ones at Christmas wouldn’t it be a good idea to cancel the Saturday fixtures are attendances are likely to be so poor anyway.
     
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    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    Who knows ?

    Brighton wanted last nights match with Wolves to be called off because of Covid but their request was refused.

    But it looks like Leicester v Spurs tonight will be postponed and it's surely only a matter of time before lots of matches in all divisions are being postponed again.

    Possibly more so in stadiums where more than 10,000 fans are expected ?

    The Brentford Manager has also already called for all Premier League games this weekend to be called off.
     
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  3. realred1952

    realred1952 Well-Known Member

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    last night ARSENAL GAME HAD 60000 in the stadium ..... BRIGHTON 30000 CPALACE 23,000+ CP is in the catchment of one of the highest rates per 100k historically the fixture before Christmas gets a dip usually 5%+ or so let them decide![ the fans ] we are in a new era, had the lockdowns, closures of pubs etc time to move on. We have to live with it and move on. Vaccine helping severity of cases, so dont get jabbed then suffer the consequences.. DEATH ... ACUTE ON GOING HEALTH ISSUES and whatever the virus throws at you. I pretty much now, do not have sympathy with anyone not getting jabbed up [ exception is the worse off health wise where a jab is medically not approved, and that is a very minute % ...0.000001% ]
     
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    realred1952 Well-Known Member

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    just looked at the 3 championship games off .... all 3 in very high concentrations of Covid
     
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  5. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    There are 10 games in the EFL from the Championship - L2 that have been called off this coming weekend and I'm sure there will be more to come.

    It's also been reported that 25% of all EFL players are either unvaccinated and do not intend to get a jab or 3 either going forward.

    I know Wells is fairly vocal about not getting jabbed but clubs are going to potentially suffer more financial hardships if their players are super spreaders and refuse to take vaccine and get games postponed or played behind closed doors because of it.

    So I wonder if this is either players of certain ages believing themselves to be bulletproof, or is it because of their ethnicity and cultural backgrounds ?
     
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  6. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    Considering NP’s history re COVID it’s a bit selfish any of our players refusing to be jabbed. If I was him I just wouldn’t pick them, that way he can keep away from them.
     
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    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    Neither, just ignorance
     
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    invermeremike Well-Known Member

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    Regrettably it's the unvaccinated that are the main, if not sole drivers, of this pandemic because all of the strains out there just love hosts like the doubters. The recent strain of Omicron is just the beginning of new variants that will create havoc around the world and unless the majority of the population get their vaccines then we could face an uphill battle for many years to come. Vaccines developed over the years have eliminated many diseases that at one time were rampant and I just can't understand how with that amount of verifiable data there are still people who truly believe that it is some kind of conspiracy. <doh>
     
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  9. realred1952

    realred1952 Well-Known Member

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    when I drive home from having a good night, pursuing my main hobby [ tonight and Tuesdays at the mo ] I think about the things we bantered about and what we chatted about in the pub afterwards. And I realise just how very lucky I am to have such a diverse group of friends and all very considerate of those around us. ALL very proud to have had the 4 jabs, all concerned about not spreading it. Tonight I did detect a resentment creeping in toward those that have not followed guidance and got jabbed. From 1 person was the comment " hopefully they will all die off and take the virus to the furnace! I dont think anyone disagreed, conversation carried on along the lines "we are doing our bit" Should we get it hopefully be like a mild case of "FLU"
    for years my wife plagued me to have the flu jab, like decades... Dec 2019 I did, dont think I had one 2020, but did this year 2021 ... in a perverse way I can see the point made by some non vaxxers ... might not happen to me.. but in my case without a dose of flu or even heavy cold [ more than 2 days ] I regarded myself as having immunity! COVID is different it was/ is brand spanking new, no humans likely to have a anti body in them to fight it. It makes sense, help the body out give it something to build on.
    I am a very lucky person ................
     
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  10. oneforthebristolcity

    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    What a desirable group of friends you have.... such a sad world <doh>
     
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  11. Cliftonville

    Cliftonville Well-Known Member

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    Did Nigel Pearson contract covid from somebody who was unvaccinated?

    The services I work in are experiencing community transferal, that is the virus comes into services from the external from the vaccinated/unvaccinated. We can track some infections and their source is the unvaccinated.

    People who are not vaccinated are not lepers
     
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    Wells needs a jab in more than one sense!
     
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    I’m not suggesting they’re lepers, but they are more susceptible to catching and passing it on, by not having the vaccination they are being selfish Imo, especially as they are working in close proximity to someone they know is susceptible to catching it. Of course having the vaccination doesn’t make you exempt, but at least you’ve taken every precaution you are able.
     
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  14. oneforthebristolcity

    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    And then there are the hypothetical, that are probably going out to non essential social jollies, mixing and spreading whatever’s out there, probably waiting to be told first when and when to restrict themselves!! So selfish..:emoticon-0137-clapp
     
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    well in comparison to the fact that our NHS SERVICE is now having to deal with upwards of 7500 unjabbed people amongst the 8000 hospitalized [ rough figures ] many hospital beds would be freed up for around 7000 people to get other important but not necessarily life threatening operations. I may point out that these desirable friends probably do more charity, for the impaired, have full time jobs, or had before retiring and cover a a very large spectrum of jobs including emergency services, doctors, teachers, in scientific based laboratry work, care workers, nursing etc. All are proud of what they achieve and THAT they have been jabbed to protect friends and family and peeps they meet unlike the unjabbed that allow themselves to be carriers and petri dish's for the virus to mutate.........
    You are right it is a sad world ... a very SAD world that a minute few of your " colleagues " 11.2% of the population [ health condition exception ] are so self centred and selfish that they risk the innocent few being put through hospitalization and even death............
     
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  16. realred1952

    realred1952 Well-Known Member

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    We have learned to live with more than 1 killer disease.. and historical facts state that most of the death's from FLU through the decades has been through the virus being able to over come the body and cause death through lack of anti bodies ... the annual figures from a few decades ago would indicate the death rate without vaccine would today would likely kill more than 4 times current figure. Because of vaccines we still socialize go about our daily businesss with milder cases of Flu than we would normally be the case.
    it is the Selfish few 11.2% [ your side of the coin ] that are mostly the reason people have to be wary about going out and mixing, but of course they do not understand the dynamics of it, but some peeps you just cannot educate.........
     
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  17. oneforthebristolcity

    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    And you are all out non essential socialising from different bubbles possibly spreading whatever’s out there, contributing to the numbers in hospitals..
    perhaps you are waiting to be told, rather than make common sense decisions!!
     
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    realred1952 Well-Known Member

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    Amazing isnt it just how poor your realization of the situation is, life has to go on but how totally amazing that at least 3 groups I go out with, and doing 1 circle of other groups attached to these 3 groups NON have had Covid. A loose count of peeps around 60 involved and most I meet at least once a week " in passing". A real solid case, an fantastic example of follow the guidance and you are in the winning group and in my 3 immediate groups total 21 peeps, no isolations! no covid .. 4 peeps go into other groups .. no covid no isolations ....
    no further answers to your posts... I like to stay positive .. not negative ... igno button pressed
     
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  19. oneforthebristolcity

    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    You and your friends are more likely to spread Covid than I am....just saying!!
     
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  20. Cliftonville

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    From politicians to footballers to all sections of society all people collectively do not take every precaution. Vaccination is not every precaution. It is a control measure.

    We as a society now have scenarios where people are now double jabbed, treble jabbed ... Unvaccinated. Add allergy comorbidity, disability, myocarditis, post covid etc preventing vaccination and boosters . Society will never get to a position of having full vaccination.
     
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